From onepoint@hidden Mon Dec 8 15:02:36 2008 From: onepoint@hidden (Jeremy Henty) Date: Mon Dec 8 16:02:46 2008 Subject: Can anyone offer help with the JROX Affiliate Marketing (JAM) software? Message-ID: <20081208150236.GD3012@omphalos.singularity> I'm trying to help bail out a friend whose installation is playing up. I've posted on the support forums but haven't got any useful help yet. If anyone on the list can answer questions about this software I'd be very grateful. The problem is that the jx_impressions table is filling up (nearly a year's worth of data). I think it's meant to be cleared out after 90 days and I can't see why this isn't happening. Is this something the JAM cron job is meant to do? Feel free to reply to my email if you'd rather not post non-Linux stuff to the list. Thanks in advance, Jeremy Henty From tom-lists-clug@hidden Tue Dec 9 11:11:34 2008 From: tom-lists-clug@hidden (Tom Ellis) Date: Tue Dec 9 12:11:39 2008 Subject: WTB: laptop Message-ID: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or less. Does anyone have anything suitable spare? Thanks, Tom From paul-clug@hidden Tue Dec 9 12:23:24 2008 From: paul-clug@hidden (Paul M) Date: Tue Dec 9 13:23:36 2008 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> Message-ID: <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> Tom Ellis wrote: > I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or less. > Does anyone have anything suitable spare? have you checked Dell Outlet (UK) - there are often some excellent bargains to be had. the only thing you need to be careful about is the screen resolution if you want one with a higher res (e.g. 1440x900 instead of say 1200x800). From tom-lists-clug@hidden Tue Dec 9 12:27:16 2008 From: tom-lists-clug@hidden (Tom Ellis) Date: Tue Dec 9 13:27:20 2008 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> Message-ID: <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:23:24PM +0000, Paul M wrote: > Tom Ellis wrote: > > I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or less. > > Does anyone have anything suitable spare? > > have you checked Dell Outlet (UK) - there are often some excellent > bargains to be had. I've never heard of that before, thanks. Unfortunately it's out of my price range. I expect only to be able to get something really old for my 100 quid. From sam.kuper@hidden Tue Dec 9 13:02:29 2008 From: sam.kuper@hidden (Sam Kuper) Date: Tue Dec 9 14:02:40 2008 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> Message-ID: <4126b3450812090502j50ccd7b2xd2030b7e4ec96c85@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/9 Tom Ellis > On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:23:24PM +0000, Paul M wrote: > > Tom Ellis wrote: > > > I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or > less. > > > Does anyone have anything suitable spare? > > > > have you checked Dell Outlet (UK) - there are often some excellent > > bargains to be had. > > I've never heard of that before, thanks. Unfortunately it's out of my > price > range. I expect only to be able to get something really old for my 100 > quid. > Tried Freecycle? Otherwise, for cheap refurb laptops, see: http://www.computerresale.co.uk/laptop.html and http://www.studentcomputers.co.uk/laptops/refurbished-laptops-c-41.html eBay may turn up some options too. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081209/549978ad/attachment.htm From dom@hidden Tue Dec 9 16:39:23 2008 From: dom@hidden (Dom Latter) Date: Tue Dec 9 16:39:38 2008 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> Message-ID: <200812091639.23829.dom@latter.org> On Tuesday 09 December 2008 12:11:34 Tom Ellis wrote: > I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or less. > Does anyone have anything suitable spare? Keep an eye on: http://www.cam.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wwwnews?grp=ucam.adverts.forsale.computer Lots of overseas graduate students going home right now. From dom@hidden Wed Dec 10 11:43:48 2008 From: dom@hidden (Dom Latter) Date: Wed Dec 10 11:44:05 2008 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <200812091639.23829.dom@latter.org> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <200812091639.23829.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <200812101143.49697.dom@latter.org> On Tuesday 09 December 2008 16:39:23 Dom Latter wrote: > On Tuesday 09 December 2008 12:11:34 Tom Ellis wrote: > > I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or > > less. Does anyone have anything suitable spare? > > Keep an eye on: > http://www.cam.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wwwnews?grp=ucam.adverts.forsale.computer > > Lots of overseas graduate students going home right now. I'll clarify that a bit - there's often bargains there as people leave the country looking for a quick sale. They want to use their kit up until the morning of departure... but a lot of what's on sale is only a year or two old so more than ?100. http://www.sterlingxs.co.uk/ is a place I've bookmarked for cheap laptops. Only thing in the hundred quid range at the mo' is a Toughbook. Try asking on cam.misc. From sam.kuper@hidden Wed Dec 10 11:52:17 2008 From: sam.kuper@hidden (Sam Kuper) Date: Wed Dec 10 12:52:25 2008 Subject: Fwd: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <120cf9d40812090653o2ff153f9uccbd7545eba992d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> <4126b3450812090502j50ccd7b2xd2030b7e4ec96c85@mail.gmail.com> <120cf9d40812090653o2ff153f9uccbd7545eba992d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4126b3450812100352i19babcb1p5f226087a7620f1b@mail.gmail.com> I was sent the following URL by a member of the list who I think meant to post it to the list rather than to me: http://www.aflsocialenterprise.org/reboot/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081210/2cac48a4/attachment.htm From tom-lists-clug@hidden Wed Dec 10 12:26:20 2008 From: tom-lists-clug@hidden (Tom Ellis) Date: Wed Dec 10 13:26:26 2008 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <200812101143.49697.dom@latter.org> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <200812091639.23829.dom@latter.org> <200812101143.49697.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <20081210122619.GA2749@weber> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:43:48AM +0100, Dom Latter wrote: > On Tuesday 09 December 2008 16:39:23 Dom Latter wrote: > > On Tuesday 09 December 2008 12:11:34 Tom Ellis wrote: > > > I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or > > > less. Does anyone have anything suitable spare? > > > > Keep an eye on: > > http://www.cam.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wwwnews?grp=ucam.adverts.forsale.computer > > > > Lots of overseas graduate students going home right now. > > I'll clarify that a bit - there's often bargains there as people leave the > country looking for a quick sale. They want to use their kit up until the > morning of departure... but a lot of what's on sale is only a year or two > old so more than ?100. Yup, my eyes are fixed on u.a.f.c. I've picked up many a bargain there before (and given many a bargain too). > http://www.sterlingxs.co.uk/ is a place I've bookmarked for cheap laptops. > Only thing in the hundred quid range at the mo' is a Toughbook. Never heard of it. Thanks for the pointer. I'll go and have a look. Tom From tom-lists-clug@hidden Wed Dec 10 12:26:49 2008 From: tom-lists-clug@hidden (Tom Ellis) Date: Wed Dec 10 13:26:54 2008 Subject: Fwd: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <4126b3450812100352i19babcb1p5f226087a7620f1b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> <4126b3450812090502j50ccd7b2xd2030b7e4ec96c85@mail.gmail.com> <120cf9d40812090653o2ff153f9uccbd7545eba992d9@mail.gmail.com> <4126b3450812100352i19babcb1p5f226087a7620f1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081210122649.GB2749@weber> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:52:17AM +0000, Sam Kuper wrote: > I was sent the following URL by a member of the list who I think meant to > post it to the list rather than to me: > > http://www.aflsocialenterprise.org/reboot/ Ah yes. I have given a computer to them once in the past. I'll have a look if they have anything suitable for me. Thanks, Tom From paul-clug@hidden Wed Dec 10 17:49:58 2008 From: paul-clug@hidden (Paul M) Date: Wed Dec 10 18:50:15 2008 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> Message-ID: <49400146.1040707@mansfield.co.uk> Tom Ellis wrote: > On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:23:24PM +0000, Paul M wrote: >> Tom Ellis wrote: >>> I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or less. >>> Does anyone have anything suitable spare? >> have you checked Dell Outlet (UK) - there are often some excellent >> bargains to be had. > > I've never heard of that before, thanks. Unfortunately it's out of my price > range. I expect only to be able to get something really old for my 100 > quid. I have an old Tosh I was given that needs some TLC, you're welcome to rescue it as I really don't have time for it TBH. From tom-lists-clug@hidden Wed Dec 10 17:52:28 2008 From: tom-lists-clug@hidden (Tom Ellis) Date: Wed Dec 10 18:52:31 2008 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <49400146.1040707@mansfield.co.uk> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> <49400146.1040707@mansfield.co.uk> Message-ID: <20081210175228.GA23235@weber> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 05:49:58PM +0000, Paul M wrote: > Tom Ellis wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:23:24PM +0000, Paul M wrote: > >> Tom Ellis wrote: > >>> I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or less. > >>> Does anyone have anything suitable spare? > >> have you checked Dell Outlet (UK) - there are often some excellent > >> bargains to be had. > > > > I've never heard of that before, thanks. Unfortunately it's out of my price > > range. I expect only to be able to get something really old for my 100 > > quid. > > I have an old Tosh I was given that needs some TLC, you're welcome to > rescue it as I really don't have time for it TBH. That would be awesome, cheers. I'll see what I can do to repair it. Please let me know by private e-mail when/where I can pick it up from you. Tom From paul-clug@hidden Wed Dec 10 23:17:39 2008 From: paul-clug@hidden (Paul) Date: Thu Dec 11 00:17:05 2008 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <20081210175228.GA23235@weber> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> <49400146.1040707@mansfield.co.uk> <20081210175228.GA23235@weber> Message-ID: <49404E13.1080008@mansfield.co.uk> Tom Ellis wrote: > > Please let me know by private e-mail when/where I can pick it up from you. > sent email direct but it bounced back, so not sure why. pipe to |bouncesaying 'Sorry, no mailbox here by that name.' generated by btb-jaguarpaw-tom-lists-clug@tuschin.mythic-beasts.com (ultimately generated from tom-lists-clug@jaguarpaw.co.uk) local delivery failed contact me off-list using real email address please :-) From tom-lists-clug2@hidden Wed Dec 10 23:20:23 2008 From: tom-lists-clug2@hidden (Tom Ellis) Date: Thu Dec 11 00:20:25 2008 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <49404E13.1080008@mansfield.co.uk> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> <49400146.1040707@mansfield.co.uk> <20081210175228.GA23235@weber> <49404E13.1080008@mansfield.co.uk> Message-ID: <20081210232023.GA30279@weber> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:17:39PM +0000, Paul wrote: > Tom Ellis wrote: > > > > Please let me know by private e-mail when/where I can pick it up from you. > > sent email direct but it bounced back, so not sure why. > pipe to |bouncesaying 'Sorry, no mailbox here by that name.' > generated by btb-jaguarpaw-tom-lists-clug@tuschin.mythic-beasts.com > (ultimately generated from tom-lists-clug@jaguarpaw.co.uk) > local delivery failed > > contact me off-list using real email address please :-) Ah. Apologies, I disabled that account but forgot to put the updated address in the From: field. Tom From alastair@hidden Wed Dec 17 22:34:24 2008 From: alastair@hidden (Alastair Stevens) Date: Wed Dec 17 23:34:31 2008 Subject: ZyXEL router offered Message-ID: <4536e91b0812171434y7ea074dfhc905d9c8139a7ee6@mail.gmail.com> Hi All Call me nuts, but I've decided to put my O2 router (Thomson TG585v7) into service at last. It has the worst interface I've ever seen on any router, and takes about 24hrs to configure properly, but having done that (masochism rules*) it actually works rather well and maintains higher connection speeds on ADSL2+ ... so far. This means my trusty ZyXEL P660-HW is now redundant, and I'm happy to offer it to the list. ?15 including packing + delivery, if anyone is interested. Otherwise it goes in the garage/technology museum for now. Not that it's obsolete by any means (model still selling at ?50 new) - it also supports ADSL2+ and all sorts of other things, and has served me well since mid-2005. The only I was having is that the Ethernet ports can only run stably at 10M - they flap constantly at 100M with my desktop, and this behaviour occurs under Linux and WinVi$ta as well, so I assume it's hardware-related. Thus far, on the O2 box, I'm running smoothly at 100M, but there may be another explanation! Any takers? I'll package and ship the ZyXEL, immaculate and boxed with bits, if there are.... Cheers AL * Setting up static DHCP leases involved several hours of trial and error, culminating in making experimental configs, backing them up and then examining them to see what changed. Eventually I deciphered the syntax, manual re-wrote the config to generate the DHCP leases, and uploaded it again. Seems to work so far, but whoever designed the web interface should be shot (slowly), preferably after having a cricket bat shoved somewhere interesting.... -- ======================================== ALASTAIR STEVENS * Web - www.altrux.me.uk * Blog - www.altrux.me.uk/blog.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081217/34b866ac/attachment.htm From dom@hidden Thu Dec 18 00:40:50 2008 From: dom@hidden (Dom Latter) Date: Thu Dec 18 00:41:06 2008 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support Message-ID: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> Having never got around to upgrading I'm still on Ubuntu 7.04 and I've been caught out by the end of life. I have until recently been switching between two different X drivers, one if I want to use the big wide-screen monitor, [1] the other if I want to use the laptop's own screen. (Dell latitude c400, as you ask). I'd use "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-i810" to go to laptop mode, and "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel" to go to widescreen mode. The i810 one can't run the big screen and the intel one can't drive the laptop screen. Unfortunately I am now away from home (and the big screen) and can't switch back to laptop mode cos the main feisty (i.e. 7.04) archives have been removed from the repositories. Is there an archive of the archives somewhere? It's a bugger to google for, as you can imagine. Could I point /etc/apt/sources.lst at the gutsy archives instead? I am loath to go for a full dist-upgrade until I can do a full backup etc. In fact part of the delay is that I think I will repartition and reinstall (reducing the Windows 2K partition to bare minimum or ditching it entirely). I just want a quick fix that will allow me to use the laptop as normal until I get home in two weeks time. Any ideas? Tomorrow I hope to plug in an external 1280x1024 monitor and see if that works okay - an external 1024x768 works, in a very flakey way. Right now I've got a borrowed laptop with a big screen booted off Puppy Linux and I'm running X apps over SSH (which is how I can send this email). Puppy Linux is great, BTW - fits on a 5cm disk and does pretty much everything you want. Has anybody ever had problems doing a dist-upgrade? And, err, anybody got a PCI (not PCI-E or PCI-X or whatever) video card going spare? Could use one for the docking station . [1] 1680x1050 From sam.kuper@hidden Wed Dec 17 23:59:51 2008 From: sam.kuper@hidden (Sam Kuper) Date: Thu Dec 18 00:59:56 2008 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <4126b3450812171559k3b7a82a2x478ea3768040f1b2@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/17 Dom Latter > > I'd use "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-i810" to go to laptop mode, > and "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel" to go to widescreen > mode. The i810 one can't run the big screen and the intel one can't drive > the laptop screen. That's a devilish workaround. Did you try asking on the Ubuntu forums or mailing lists (or, failing that, the Debian ones) to find out if there might be a better solution than yanking the packages from an online repository each time? > Unfortunately I am now away from home (and the big screen) and can't switch > back to laptop mode cos the main feisty (i.e. 7.04) archives have been removed > from the repositories. If there wasn't a better solution, I'd have at least made a local repository with those two packages and listed it in /etc/apt/sources.list or whatever, so that I wasn't dependent on an internet connection - let alone dependent upon the repos being sustained. Are those packages on your Ubuntu 7.04 install disk? You might be able to use that as a repository. > Is there an archive of the archives somewhere? It's a bugger to google for, > as you can imagine. I'd be surprised if there weren't, but I expect the Ubuntu lists/fora/irc would be the best places to ask. > Could I point /etc/apt/sources.lst at the gutsy archives instead? Yes, but an apt-get upgrade might break. YMMV. > I am loath to go for a full dist-upgrade until I can do a full backup etc. > In fact part of the delay is that I think I will repartition and reinstall > (reducing the Windows 2K partition to bare minimum or ditching it entirely). > I just want a quick fix that will allow me to use the laptop as normal > until I get home in two weeks time. > > Any ideas? > [...] > Has anybody ever had problems doing a dist-upgrade? The dist-upgrades I've done have been in Debian, from Etch to Lenny. They've gone pretty smoothly. Nonetheless, I'd recommend you back up before trying one. It'd be great if you could report back to the list what your solution is, when you find it :) From dom@hidden Thu Dec 18 01:05:50 2008 From: dom@hidden (Dom Latter) Date: Thu Dec 18 01:06:07 2008 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <200812180105.50517.dom@latter.org> On Thursday 18 December 2008 00:40:50 Dom Latter wrote: > Is there an archive of the archives somewhere? It's a bugger to google > for, as you can imagine. > > Could I point /etc/apt/sources.lst at the gutsy archives instead? As usual, sending an email has concentrated the mind and I've discovered old-releases.ubuntu.com which looks like I should be able to slot it into my sources.lst in place of archive.ubuntu.com. And I've now installed the old driver. Think I need to close all my apps down and see if I can start gnome up on the laptop screen... I may be some time... From wawrzek@hidden Thu Dec 18 00:09:57 2008 From: wawrzek@hidden (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Wawrzyniec_Niewodnicza=F1ski?=) Date: Thu Dec 18 01:10:09 2008 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: 2008/12/17 Dom Latter : > Having never got around to upgrading I'm still on Ubuntu 7.04 and I've been > caught out by the end of life. I have until recently been switching between > two different X drivers, one if I want to use the big wide-screen monitor, [1] > the other if I want to use the laptop's own screen. (Dell latitude c400, > as you ask). > Can you send your Xorg.conf please? [...] > Has anybody ever had problems doing a dist-upgrade? Yes. My friend mentioned to me that U 8.04 -> 8.10 kill the system. I prefer to make the full reinstall. > And, err, anybody got a PCI (not PCI-E or PCI-X or whatever) video card > going spare? Could use one for the docking station I'' tried in my garage but it's rather AGP. Have you tried how new Live distrib works on your machine? I'll suggest Fedora10. Wawrzek -- Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski vel Wawrzek Larry or LarryN Linux User #177124 E-MAIL: wawrzek@gmail.com PhD in Quantum Chemistry WWW: http://wawrzek.name MSc in Molecular Engineering JID: larryn@chrome.pl From dom@hidden Thu Dec 18 01:15:00 2008 From: dom@hidden (Dom Latter) Date: Thu Dec 18 01:15:17 2008 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: <4126b3450812171559k3b7a82a2x478ea3768040f1b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> <4126b3450812171559k3b7a82a2x478ea3768040f1b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812180115.00533.dom@latter.org> On Thursday 18 December 2008 00:59:51 Sam Kuper wrote: > 2008/12/17 Dom Latter > > > I'd use "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-i810" to go to laptop mode, > > and "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel" to go to widescreen > > mode. The i810 one can't run the big screen and the intel one can't > > drive the laptop screen. > > That's a devilish workaround. Did you try asking on the Ubuntu forums > or mailing lists (or, failing that, the Debian ones) to find out if > there might be a better solution than yanking the packages from an > online repository each time? It worked well enough for the rare occasions when I wanted to take the laptop away from the desk! > > Unfortunately I am now away from home (and the big screen) and can't > > switch back to laptop mode cos the main feisty (i.e. 7.04) archives have > > been removed from the repositories. > > If there wasn't a better solution, I'd have at least made a local > repository with those two packages and listed it in > /etc/apt/sources.list or whatever, so that I wasn't dependent on an > internet connection - let alone dependent upon the repos being > sustained. That was my plan and ISTR asking here about it. And on one occasion it seemed to work (IIRC) when I was offline so I assumed that I had a cache of it anyway. As usual, Life and Work get in the way of implementing things... > They've gone pretty smoothly. Nonetheless, I'd recommend you back up > before trying one. Well, I've got the really important stuff backedup on line, but not absolutely everything. > It'd be great if you could report back to the list what your solution > is, when you find it :) As per other post. Thanks for the swift reply. From dom@hidden Thu Dec 18 01:22:58 2008 From: dom@hidden (Dom Latter) Date: Thu Dec 18 01:23:13 2008 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <200812180122.58236.dom@latter.org> On Thursday 18 December 2008 01:09:57 Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski wrote: > 2008/12/17 Dom Latter : > > Having never got around to upgrading I'm still on Ubuntu 7.04 and I've > > been caught out by the end of life. I have until recently been switching > > between two different X drivers, one if I want to use the big wide-screen > > monitor, [1] the other if I want to use the laptop's own screen. (Dell > > latitude c400, as you ask). > > Can you send your Xorg.conf please? You sure? > > Has anybody ever had problems doing a dist-upgrade? > > Yes. My friend mentioned to me that U 8.04 -> 8.10 kill the system. I > prefer to make the full reinstall. I did 8.04 to 8.10 on an old Thinkpad. Wireless stopped working and a couple of other issues came up. Can report back in a couple of weeks when I'm with the Thinkpad again, if you are interested. > Have you tried how new Live distrib works on your machine? I'll > suggest Fedora10. Any particular reason? Almost all my work is with Debian-style distros and I'll stick with that unless there's good reason to change. From wawrzek@hidden Thu Dec 18 00:27:43 2008 From: wawrzek@hidden (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Wawrzyniec_Niewodnicza=F1ski?=) Date: Thu Dec 18 01:27:52 2008 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: <200812180122.58236.dom@latter.org> References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> <200812180122.58236.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: 2008/12/18 Dom Latter : > On Thursday 18 December 2008 01:09:57 Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski wrote: >> 2008/12/17 Dom Latter : >> > Having never got around to upgrading I'm still on Ubuntu 7.04 and I've >> > been caught out by the end of life. I have until recently been switching >> > between two different X drivers, one if I want to use the big wide-screen >> > monitor, [1] the other if I want to use the laptop's own screen. (Dell >> > latitude c400, as you ask). >> >> Can you send your Xorg.conf please? > > You sure? Why not. I played with Xorg.confs a bit. I.e. X server settings from Ubuntu wasn't the nicer in the case of my Ati 128 (until 8.10 which work good out of box). > I did 8.04 to 8.10 on an old Thinkpad. Wireless stopped working and a couple > of other issues came up. Can report back in a couple of weeks when I'm with > the Thinkpad again, if you are interested. > >> Have you tried how new Live distrib works on your machine? I'll >> suggest Fedora10. > > Any particular reason? Almost all my work is with Debian-style distros > and I'll stick with that unless there's good reason to change. Fedora seems to be the cutting edge of distributions (writing from Ubuntu ;) Wawrzek -- Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski vel Wawrzek Larry or LarryN Linux User #177124 E-MAIL: wawrzek@gmail.com PhD in Quantum Chemistry WWW: http://wawrzek.name MSc in Molecular Engineering JID: larryn@chrome.pl From dom@hidden Thu Dec 18 01:30:36 2008 From: dom@hidden (Dom Latter) Date: Thu Dec 18 01:30:51 2008 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: <200812180115.00533.dom@latter.org> References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> <4126b3450812171559k3b7a82a2x478ea3768040f1b2@mail.gmail.com> <200812180115.00533.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <200812180130.36784.dom@latter.org> Success! Typed from the Gnome desktop on the laptop. From paul-clug@hidden Thu Dec 18 11:05:44 2008 From: paul-clug@hidden (Paul M) Date: Thu Dec 18 12:05:59 2008 Subject: opensuse11.1 Message-ID: <494A2E88.7000302@mansfield.co.uk> I know you're all desperately waiting for this release (!), so in case it proves hard to get to the website, the URLs are below. They've lined up Akamai for the first few days to speed up downloads, so it'll be interesting to see if they can cope! http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/torrent/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-i686.torrent http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-i586.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/torrent/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-x86_64.torrent http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-x86_64.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/ From ejlilley@hidden Thu Dec 18 13:34:47 2008 From: ejlilley@hidden (Edward Lilley) Date: Thu Dec 18 14:35:01 2008 Subject: opensuse11.1 In-Reply-To: <494A2E88.7000302@mansfield.co.uk> References: <494A2E88.7000302@mansfield.co.uk> Message-ID: <1229607287.18763.0.camel@delta.ugnus.uk.eu.org> On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 11:05 +0000, Paul M wrote: > I know you're all desperately waiting for this release (!), so in case > it proves hard to get to the website, the URLs are below. They've lined > up Akamai for the first few days to speed up downloads, so it'll be > interesting to see if they can cope! > > > http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/torrent/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-i686.torrent > http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-i586.iso > > http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/torrent/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-x86_64.torrent > http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-x86_64.iso > > http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/ > > _______________________________________________ > CLUG mailing list > clug@cambridge-lug.org > Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org Funnily enough, I've never used SuSE... how does it compare to Fedora? (in terms of stability, features &c.) From paul-clug@hidden Thu Dec 18 15:00:40 2008 From: paul-clug@hidden (Paul M) Date: Thu Dec 18 16:00:52 2008 Subject: opensuse11.1 In-Reply-To: <1229607287.18763.0.camel@delta.ugnus.uk.eu.org> References: <494A2E88.7000302@mansfield.co.uk> <1229607287.18763.0.camel@delta.ugnus.uk.eu.org> Message-ID: <494A6598.9000503@mansfield.co.uk> Edward Lilley wrote: > On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 11:05 +0000, Paul M wrote: >> I know you're all desperately waiting for this release (!), so in case d'oh, they changed the URLs prior to release, sorry! anyway, the website didn't fall over, so www.opensuse.org is the place to go > Funnily enough, I've never used SuSE... how does it compare to Fedora? > (in terms of stability, features &c.) Not used fedora, but IME Fedora is a fast moving target, SuSE for me is trivial to install and admin (I unleashed a bunch of never-used-linux-before-in-anger developers on a rack full of dev servers and they didn't manage to break anything), and it's been fine. The only thing I can suggest is to try it out! From paul-clug@hidden Thu Dec 18 16:06:36 2008 From: paul-clug@hidden (Paul M) Date: Thu Dec 18 17:06:48 2008 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> <200812180122.58236.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <494A750C.1060906@mansfield.co.uk> Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski wrote: > Fedora seems to be the cutting edge of distributions (writing from Ubuntu ;) I thought Mandriva was attempting to just over the bleeding edge and insanity :-) From paul-clug@hidden Fri Dec 19 12:36:11 2008 From: paul-clug@hidden (Paul M) Date: Fri Dec 19 13:36:23 2008 Subject: Linux Firewalling In-Reply-To: <492C1DBB.8090002@mansfield.co.uk> References: <492BD7C0.7020604@gasops.co.uk> <7891dd830811250303p723fdc26pc6628c957c2d9608@mail.gmail.com> <492BDE50.9000007@gasops.co.uk> <7891dd830811250329r62dbb345n493cc3a4599118b9@mail.gmail.com> <492C1DBB.8090002@mansfield.co.uk> Message-ID: <494B953B.8080105@mansfield.co.uk> Paul M wrote: > cacti at it and monitor switch port usage. procurve switches also good, BTW1 clug members might be interested/amused to know I "ate my own dogfood" and we bought a Procurve chassis-based switch - the 5412zl which is a bundled deal of chassis + supervisor + dual PSU + four x 24-port wire-speed switch modules. It's far far cheaper that any equivalent Cisco chassis/modular product and is relatively frugal on power - 1.5A when both PSUs in use, barely an amp if only one. It has a few quirks but generally has been very good. I prefer Cisco configuration. Procurve's web interface is only good for the most basic setup, and just like cisco you really need to learn the command-line - procurve is very similar anyway - and it's dead easy to get started. BTW2, I bought a Cisco 2950-T24 off ebay for myself at home for next to nothing, there's many many of them up for sale, ideal if you want to learn a bit more advanced stuff, play with vlans etc or just segment your home LAN in order to have a guest lan and/or put your wireless into a DMZ, use 802.1x, freenac etc. Paul From wawrzek@hidden Sun Dec 21 22:23:59 2008 From: wawrzek@hidden (Wawrzyniec =?utf-8?Q?Niewodnicza=F1ski?=) Date: Sun Dec 21 23:24:08 2008 Subject: LinkedIn members Message-ID: <20081221222357.GA6036@gmail.com> Hi, Yesterday I gave a try to ELive and I have to say it was the most refreshing Linux experience from the time I installed Crux some years ago. It is much more polished and looks better than Vista (but it obvious), Gnome, KDE4 but also MacOSX and I was using devel version of Elive which based on beta of E17! OK. There were some glitches i.e. Installed didn't work :) BTW. I would like to let you know that our LinkedIn group have 10 members ;) Wawrzek -- Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski vel Wawrzek, Larry or LarryN Linux User #177124 E-MAIL: wawrzek@gmail.com PhD in Quantum Chemistry WWW: http://wawrzek.name MSc in Molecular Engineering JID: larryn@chrome.pl From wawrzek@hidden Sun Dec 21 22:34:11 2008 From: wawrzek@hidden (Wawrzyniec =?utf-8?Q?Niewodnicza=F1ski?=) Date: Sun Dec 21 23:34:19 2008 Subject: Elive [was Re: LinkedIn members] In-Reply-To: <20081221222357.GA6036@gmail.com> References: <20081221222357.GA6036@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081221223410.GA6242@gmail.com> Hi, Sorry for the title of previous message. Wawrzek -- Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski vel Wawrzek, Larry or LarryN Linux User #177124 E-MAIL: wawrzek@gmail.com PhD in Quantum Chemistry WWW: http://wawrzek.name MSc in Molecular Engineering JID: larryn@chrome.pl From sam.kuper@hidden Mon Dec 29 18:04:29 2008 From: sam.kuper@hidden (Sam Kuper) Date: Mon Dec 29 19:04:36 2008 Subject: Pulster offer - Freerunner 299 eur In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4126b3450812291004p26df3e4br27ebd0130c7ae297@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/29 Christoph Pulster : > - we are offering Openmoko Freerunner units now for 299 eur. > This is AFAIK best price worldwide. GroupSales 10 units = 279 eur/each Besides me, is there anyone on the list in/near Cambridge or London (UK) who would like to be part of a bulk order (10 units or more)? If so, please could you post to the list (or to me directly, if you prefer, in which case I won't announce your name)? If we can get ten buyers, we could all save a bit of money... I'd also be interested in the debug board, and I see that pulster.de is offering a 10EUR/unit discount for orders of 5 or more units. So, again, if you'd like one too, let me know. Regards, Sam PS. I've cc'd the Cambridge LUG, because I know at least one member of that list has been thinking about buying a FreeRunner... From sam.kuper@hidden Tue Dec 30 01:42:03 2008 From: sam.kuper@hidden (Sam Kuper) Date: Tue Dec 30 02:42:13 2008 Subject: Pulster offer - Freerunner 299 eur (Sam Kuper) In-Reply-To: <636782.62430.qm@web26307.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <636782.62430.qm@web26307.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4126b3450812291742w432ea585lb5cabdbb1ea124b6@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/29 Anthony Clearn : >[Sam Kuper wrote: ] >>If so, please could you post to the list (or to me directly, if you >>prefer, in which case I won't announce your name)? If we can get ten >>buyers, we could all save a bit of money... > > Hi, > have you checked here? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Group_sales#England Hi Anthony, Nope, I hadn't. I wasn't previously aware of that page, so thanks for pointing it out :) Dear all, Obviously, with a wiki page available for the purpose of co-ordinating group-buy efforts, emailing me to show your interest would be less useful than it would otherwise have been, so please don't bother now. Sorry for the noise. Sam From wawrzek@hidden Tue Dec 30 13:20:45 2008 From: wawrzek@hidden (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Wawrzyniec_Niewodnicza=F1ski?=) Date: Tue Dec 30 14:20:57 2008 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge Message-ID: Hi, The years is coming to end so it means that other is starting. So it's good thing to starting something new. I would like to propose another CamLUG project. I started the Google map with Cambridge companies using Linux (and/or general FOSS) and I would like you to join. http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=116257976395264086847.0004593ed5b1f40f48fd4 Why do I think it good for CamLUG or more general for Linux/FOSS? It exposes: - our group. - FOSS related opportunities. - Cambridge as a good place to work and live for FOSS related people. - companies using (or creating) right tools it means giving us or FOSS developers bread, and without bread there are no code. - that Linux/FOSS is no more for a strange boys not playing football. - that Linux is important part of "economy based on knowledge" and its something worth to learn. - scale of Linux adoption. - ? Please free to add new entries, share you ideas etc... I know that James Tobin from Camalyn tried to add some entries but he failed. We haven't time to proper debug the issue so I will be glad if you confirm that I properly set the map. Wawrzek -- Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski vel Wawrzek Larry or LarryN Linux User #177124 E-MAIL: wawrzek@gmail.com PhD in Quantum Chemistry WWW: http://wawrzek.name MSc in Molecular Engineering JID: larryn@chrome.pl From will.pink@hidden Tue Dec 30 15:25:33 2008 From: will.pink@hidden (william pink) Date: Tue Dec 30 16:25:43 2008 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I see no pointers on the map? I presume there is supposed to be. I searched long and hard for a FOSS/Linux sysadmin role and unfortunately couldn't find anything that could match what London had to offer (Which is to be expected I suppose). The pointer I would like to add is Marshall Aerospace which used (I imagine still does) Redhat ES4 in a LFS cluster. Regards, Will 2008/12/30 Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski > Hi, > > The years is coming to end so it means that other is starting. So it's > good thing to starting something new. > I would like to propose another CamLUG project. I started the Google > map with Cambridge companies using Linux (and/or general FOSS) and I > would like you to join. > > > http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=116257976395264086847.0004593ed5b1f40f48fd4 > > Why do I think it good for CamLUG or more general for Linux/FOSS? > > It exposes: > - our group. > - FOSS related opportunities. > - Cambridge as a good place to work and live for FOSS related people. > - companies using (or creating) right tools it means giving us or FOSS > developers bread, and without bread there are no code. > - that Linux/FOSS is no more for a strange boys not playing football. > - that Linux is important part of "economy based on knowledge" and its > something worth to learn. > - scale of Linux adoption. > - ? > > Please free to add new entries, share you ideas etc... > I know that James Tobin from Camalyn tried to add some entries but he > failed. We haven't time to proper debug the issue so I will be glad if > you confirm that I properly set the map. > > Wawrzek > -- > Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski vel Wawrzek Larry or LarryN > Linux User #177124 E-MAIL: wawrzek@gmail.com > PhD in Quantum Chemistry WWW: http://wawrzek.name > MSc in Molecular Engineering JID: larryn@chrome.pl > > _______________________________________________ > CLUG mailing list > clug@cambridge-lug.org > Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081230/f3bcf8ac/attachment.htm From onepoint@hidden Tue Dec 30 15:53:30 2008 From: onepoint@hidden (Jeremy Henty) Date: Tue Dec 30 16:53:39 2008 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081230155330.GB2935@omphalos.singularity> > 2008/12/30 Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski > > > I started the Google map with Cambridge companies using Linux > > (and/or general FOSS) .. Very neat! On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: > Hi, > > I see no pointers on the map? Works fine for me in Firefox, though it takes a few seconds for the pointer data to download. Maybe it was just taking a long time for your browser to get the data? Regards, Jeremy Henty From will.pink@hidden Tue Dec 30 16:04:26 2008 From: will.pink@hidden (william pink) Date: Tue Dec 30 17:04:31 2008 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <20081230155330.GB2935@omphalos.singularity> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> <20081230155330.GB2935@omphalos.singularity> Message-ID: <7891dd830812300804x38f7c01eg598da2d93364e101@mail.gmail.com> That's bizarre it now works for me! Will On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Jeremy Henty wrote: > > > 2008/12/30 Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski > > > > > I started the Google map with Cambridge companies using Linux > > > (and/or general FOSS) .. > > Very neat! > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I see no pointers on the map? > > Works fine for me in Firefox, though it takes a few seconds for the > pointer data to download. Maybe it was just taking a long time for > your browser to get the data? > > Regards, > > Jeremy Henty > _______________________________________________ > CLUG mailing list > clug@cambridge-lug.org > Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081230/ee8d543f/attachment.htm From onepoint@hidden Tue Dec 30 16:49:02 2008 From: onepoint@hidden (Jeremy Henty) Date: Tue Dec 30 17:49:11 2008 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <7891dd830812300804x38f7c01eg598da2d93364e101@mail.gmail.com> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> <20081230155330.GB2935@omphalos.singularity> <7891dd830812300804x38f7c01eg598da2d93364e101@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081230164902.GC2935@omphalos.singularity> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 04:04:26PM +0000, william pink wrote: > That's bizarre it now works for me! Sounds like your InterTube choked just as you were downloading the pointer data the first time. There's a noticeable delay so's it's not that unlikely. Jeremy Henty -- In [high energy] quantum physics, to observe something, you have to create it. Now this sounds scarily close to bullshit. But if it is bullshit, then at least it's bullshit with equations. -- Frank Wilczek From sam.kuper@hidden Tue Dec 30 17:41:48 2008 From: sam.kuper@hidden (Sam Kuper) Date: Tue Dec 30 18:41:54 2008 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4126b3450812300941v3cb4efadqf7abe47af3cb0fc@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/30 Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski > I know that James Tobin from Camalyn tried to add some entries but he > failed. We haven't time to proper debug the issue so I will be glad if > you confirm that I properly set the map. It didn't load properly the first time: everything worked except the "pins" on the map, which weren't visible. Refreshing the browser (Chrome on Vista, sorry!) made it work. From onepoint@hidden Tue Dec 30 20:17:38 2008 From: onepoint@hidden (Jeremy Henty) Date: Tue Dec 30 21:17:55 2008 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081230201738.GD2935@omphalos.singularity> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: > > I searched long and hard for a FOSS/Linux sysadmin role and > unfortunately couldn't find anything that could match what London > had to offer... That's surprising. Isn't Cambridge all about cutting-edge technology? What does London have to offer? Regards, Jeremy Henty From tuxbox.guru@hidden Wed Dec 31 07:42:49 2008 From: tuxbox.guru@hidden (Richard) Date: Wed Dec 31 08:43:02 2008 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <20081230201738.GD2935@omphalos.singularity> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> <20081230201738.GD2935@omphalos.singularity> Message-ID: <495B2279.3050207@gmail.com> Jeremy Henty wrote: > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: > >> I searched long and hard for a FOSS/Linux sysadmin role and >> unfortunately couldn't find anything that could match what London >> had to offer... >> > > That's surprising. Isn't Cambridge all about cutting-edge technology? > What does London have to offer? > > Regards, > > Jeremy Henty > _______________________________________________ > CLUG mailing list > clug@cambridge-lug.org > Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org > > Unfortunately I know of a few companies that use Linux/FOSS in their products that have jumped on the 'Redundancy' bandwagon and their VC funds have -apparently- dried up. As it stands, Linux jobs in Cambs are quite competitive, and some employers are using this to drive down salaries. I would definitely appreciate a list of Linux companies in the Cambs area just to avoid employment agents :D, but I am reluctant to add to it as the R+D scene is a bit wobbly. Just my 1p Richard From will.pink@hidden Wed Dec 31 12:15:54 2008 From: will.pink@hidden (william pink) Date: Wed Dec 31 13:16:04 2008 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <20081230201738.GD2935@omphalos.singularity> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> <20081230201738.GD2935@omphalos.singularity> Message-ID: <7891dd830812310415k56559c4cq4f19e8b90106ba2@mail.gmail.com> Well for a start there is more opportunity's in London and the salaries just don't compare, I wouldn't for swap for a job in Cambridge now though as I am happily living in London and have a role I really enjoy. One thing I did notice is the Cambridge based roles wanted the earth in terms of experience and skills whereas as my London was more accommodating to training etc Regards, Will On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Jeremy Henty wrote: > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: > > > > I searched long and hard for a FOSS/Linux sysadmin role and > > unfortunately couldn't find anything that could match what London > > had to offer... > > That's surprising. Isn't Cambridge all about cutting-edge technology? > What does London have to offer? > > Regards, > > Jeremy Henty > _______________________________________________ > CLUG mailing list > clug@cambridge-lug.org > Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081231/11890f9c/attachment.htm From will.pink@hidden Wed Dec 31 12:17:06 2008 From: will.pink@hidden (william pink) Date: Wed Dec 31 13:17:13 2008 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <7891dd830812310415k56559c4cq4f19e8b90106ba2@mail.gmail.com> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> <20081230201738.GD2935@omphalos.singularity> <7891dd830812310415k56559c4cq4f19e8b90106ba2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7891dd830812310417y414e0f4i618103a300daf22b@mail.gmail.com> Apologies for the awful grammar and punctuation I should of proof read it. On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 12:15 PM, william pink wrote: > Well for a start there is more opportunity's in London and the salaries > just don't compare, I wouldn't for swap for a job in Cambridge now though as > I am happily living in London and have a role I really enjoy. One thing I > did notice is the Cambridge based roles wanted the earth in terms of > experience and skills whereas as my London was more accommodating to > training etc > > Regards, > Will > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Jeremy Henty wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: >> > >> > I searched long and hard for a FOSS/Linux sysadmin role and >> > unfortunately couldn't find anything that could match what London >> > had to offer... >> >> That's surprising. Isn't Cambridge all about cutting-edge technology? >> What does London have to offer? >> >> Regards, >> >> Jeremy Henty >> _______________________________________________ >> CLUG mailing list >> clug@cambridge-lug.org >> Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081231/2d43b090/attachment.htm From clug@hidden Wed Dec 31 13:59:46 2008 From: clug@hidden (Jan M. Dziewulski) Date: Wed Dec 31 15:09:24 2008 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <7891dd830812310415k56559c4cq4f19e8b90106ba2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: They are probably aiming it more at ppl who have just graduated from our local Uni. A lot of them already have a lot of experience, admittedly not paid for but could obtain that fairly easily. Just my 2p... -- Janek On 31/12/2008 12:15, St. John's flock of rabid geese heard william pink say: > Well for a start there is more opportunity's in London and the salaries just > don't compare, I wouldn't for swap for a job in Cambridge now though as I am > happily living in London and have a role I really enjoy. One thing I did > notice is the Cambridge based roles wanted the earth in terms of experience > and skills whereas as my London was more accommodating to training etc > > Regards, > Will > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Jeremy Henty wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: >>> >>> I searched long and hard for a FOSS/Linux sysadmin role and >>> unfortunately couldn't find anything that could match what London >>> had to offer... >> >> That's surprising. Isn't Cambridge all about cutting-edge technology? >> What does London have to offer? >> >> Regards, >> >> Jeremy Henty >> _______________________________________________ >> CLUG mailing list >> clug@cambridge-lug.org >> Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > CLUG mailing list > clug@cambridge-lug.org > Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org From onepoint at starurchin.org Mon Dec 8 16:02:36 2008 From: onepoint at starurchin.org (Jeremy Henty) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:02:36 +0000 Subject: Can anyone offer help with the JROX Affiliate Marketing (JAM) software? Message-ID: <20081208150236.GD3012@omphalos.singularity> I'm trying to help bail out a friend whose installation is playing up. I've posted on the support forums but haven't got any useful help yet. If anyone on the list can answer questions about this software I'd be very grateful. The problem is that the jx_impressions table is filling up (nearly a year's worth of data). I think it's meant to be cleared out after 90 days and I can't see why this isn't happening. Is this something the JAM cron job is meant to do? Feel free to reply to my email if you'd rather not post non-Linux stuff to the list. Thanks in advance, Jeremy Henty From tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk Tue Dec 9 12:11:34 2008 From: tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk (Tom Ellis) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:11:34 +0000 Subject: WTB: laptop Message-ID: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or less. Does anyone have anything suitable spare? Thanks, Tom From paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk Tue Dec 9 13:23:24 2008 From: paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk (Paul M) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:23:24 +0000 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> Message-ID: <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> Tom Ellis wrote: > I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or less. > Does anyone have anything suitable spare? have you checked Dell Outlet (UK) - there are often some excellent bargains to be had. the only thing you need to be careful about is the screen resolution if you want one with a higher res (e.g. 1440x900 instead of say 1200x800). From tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk Tue Dec 9 13:27:16 2008 From: tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk (Tom Ellis) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 12:27:16 +0000 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> Message-ID: <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:23:24PM +0000, Paul M wrote: > Tom Ellis wrote: > > I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or less. > > Does anyone have anything suitable spare? > > have you checked Dell Outlet (UK) - there are often some excellent > bargains to be had. I've never heard of that before, thanks. Unfortunately it's out of my price range. I expect only to be able to get something really old for my 100 quid. From sam.kuper at uclmail.net Tue Dec 9 14:02:29 2008 From: sam.kuper at uclmail.net (Sam Kuper) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 13:02:29 +0000 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> Message-ID: <4126b3450812090502j50ccd7b2xd2030b7e4ec96c85@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/9 Tom Ellis > On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:23:24PM +0000, Paul M wrote: > > Tom Ellis wrote: > > > I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or > less. > > > Does anyone have anything suitable spare? > > > > have you checked Dell Outlet (UK) - there are often some excellent > > bargains to be had. > > I've never heard of that before, thanks. Unfortunately it's out of my > price > range. I expect only to be able to get something really old for my 100 > quid. > Tried Freecycle? Otherwise, for cheap refurb laptops, see: http://www.computerresale.co.uk/laptop.html and http://www.studentcomputers.co.uk/laptops/refurbished-laptops-c-41.html eBay may turn up some options too. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081209/549978ad/attachment-0001.htm From dom at latter.org Tue Dec 9 16:39:23 2008 From: dom at latter.org (Dom Latter) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 16:39:23 +0100 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> Message-ID: <200812091639.23829.dom@latter.org> On Tuesday 09 December 2008 12:11:34 Tom Ellis wrote: > I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or less. > Does anyone have anything suitable spare? Keep an eye on: http://www.cam.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wwwnews?grp=ucam.adverts.forsale.computer Lots of overseas graduate students going home right now. From dom at latter.org Wed Dec 10 11:43:48 2008 From: dom at latter.org (Dom Latter) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:43:48 +0100 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <200812091639.23829.dom@latter.org> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <200812091639.23829.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <200812101143.49697.dom@latter.org> On Tuesday 09 December 2008 16:39:23 Dom Latter wrote: > On Tuesday 09 December 2008 12:11:34 Tom Ellis wrote: > > I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or > > less. Does anyone have anything suitable spare? > > Keep an eye on: > http://www.cam.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wwwnews?grp=ucam.adverts.forsale.computer > > Lots of overseas graduate students going home right now. I'll clarify that a bit - there's often bargains there as people leave the country looking for a quick sale. They want to use their kit up until the morning of departure... but a lot of what's on sale is only a year or two old so more than ?100. http://www.sterlingxs.co.uk/ is a place I've bookmarked for cheap laptops. Only thing in the hundred quid range at the mo' is a Toughbook. Try asking on cam.misc. From sam.kuper at uclmail.net Wed Dec 10 12:52:17 2008 From: sam.kuper at uclmail.net (Sam Kuper) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:52:17 +0000 Subject: Fwd: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <120cf9d40812090653o2ff153f9uccbd7545eba992d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> <4126b3450812090502j50ccd7b2xd2030b7e4ec96c85@mail.gmail.com> <120cf9d40812090653o2ff153f9uccbd7545eba992d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4126b3450812100352i19babcb1p5f226087a7620f1b@mail.gmail.com> I was sent the following URL by a member of the list who I think meant to post it to the list rather than to me: http://www.aflsocialenterprise.org/reboot/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081210/2cac48a4/attachment-0001.htm From tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk Wed Dec 10 13:26:20 2008 From: tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk (Tom Ellis) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:26:20 +0000 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <200812101143.49697.dom@latter.org> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <200812091639.23829.dom@latter.org> <200812101143.49697.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <20081210122619.GA2749@weber> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:43:48AM +0100, Dom Latter wrote: > On Tuesday 09 December 2008 16:39:23 Dom Latter wrote: > > On Tuesday 09 December 2008 12:11:34 Tom Ellis wrote: > > > I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or > > > less. Does anyone have anything suitable spare? > > > > Keep an eye on: > > http://www.cam.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wwwnews?grp=ucam.adverts.forsale.computer > > > > Lots of overseas graduate students going home right now. > > I'll clarify that a bit - there's often bargains there as people leave the > country looking for a quick sale. They want to use their kit up until the > morning of departure... but a lot of what's on sale is only a year or two > old so more than ?100. Yup, my eyes are fixed on u.a.f.c. I've picked up many a bargain there before (and given many a bargain too). > http://www.sterlingxs.co.uk/ is a place I've bookmarked for cheap laptops. > Only thing in the hundred quid range at the mo' is a Toughbook. Never heard of it. Thanks for the pointer. I'll go and have a look. Tom From tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk Wed Dec 10 13:26:49 2008 From: tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk (Tom Ellis) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:26:49 +0000 Subject: Fwd: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <4126b3450812100352i19babcb1p5f226087a7620f1b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> <4126b3450812090502j50ccd7b2xd2030b7e4ec96c85@mail.gmail.com> <120cf9d40812090653o2ff153f9uccbd7545eba992d9@mail.gmail.com> <4126b3450812100352i19babcb1p5f226087a7620f1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081210122649.GB2749@weber> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:52:17AM +0000, Sam Kuper wrote: > I was sent the following URL by a member of the list who I think meant to > post it to the list rather than to me: > > http://www.aflsocialenterprise.org/reboot/ Ah yes. I have given a computer to them once in the past. I'll have a look if they have anything suitable for me. Thanks, Tom From paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk Wed Dec 10 18:49:58 2008 From: paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk (Paul M) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:49:58 +0000 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> Message-ID: <49400146.1040707@mansfield.co.uk> Tom Ellis wrote: > On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:23:24PM +0000, Paul M wrote: >> Tom Ellis wrote: >>> I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or less. >>> Does anyone have anything suitable spare? >> have you checked Dell Outlet (UK) - there are often some excellent >> bargains to be had. > > I've never heard of that before, thanks. Unfortunately it's out of my price > range. I expect only to be able to get something really old for my 100 > quid. I have an old Tosh I was given that needs some TLC, you're welcome to rescue it as I really don't have time for it TBH. From tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk Wed Dec 10 18:52:28 2008 From: tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk (Tom Ellis) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:52:28 +0000 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <49400146.1040707@mansfield.co.uk> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> <49400146.1040707@mansfield.co.uk> Message-ID: <20081210175228.GA23235@weber> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 05:49:58PM +0000, Paul M wrote: > Tom Ellis wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:23:24PM +0000, Paul M wrote: > >> Tom Ellis wrote: > >>> I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or less. > >>> Does anyone have anything suitable spare? > >> have you checked Dell Outlet (UK) - there are often some excellent > >> bargains to be had. > > > > I've never heard of that before, thanks. Unfortunately it's out of my price > > range. I expect only to be able to get something really old for my 100 > > quid. > > I have an old Tosh I was given that needs some TLC, you're welcome to > rescue it as I really don't have time for it TBH. That would be awesome, cheers. I'll see what I can do to repair it. Please let me know by private e-mail when/where I can pick it up from you. Tom From paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk Thu Dec 11 00:17:39 2008 From: paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:17:39 +0000 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <20081210175228.GA23235@weber> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> <49400146.1040707@mansfield.co.uk> <20081210175228.GA23235@weber> Message-ID: <49404E13.1080008@mansfield.co.uk> Tom Ellis wrote: > > Please let me know by private e-mail when/where I can pick it up from you. > sent email direct but it bounced back, so not sure why. pipe to |bouncesaying 'Sorry, no mailbox here by that name.' generated by btb-jaguarpaw-tom-lists-clug at tuschin.mythic-beasts.com (ultimately generated from tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk) local delivery failed contact me off-list using real email address please :-) From tom-lists-clug2 at jaguarpaw.co.uk Thu Dec 11 00:20:23 2008 From: tom-lists-clug2 at jaguarpaw.co.uk (Tom Ellis) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:20:23 +0000 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <49404E13.1080008@mansfield.co.uk> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> <49400146.1040707@mansfield.co.uk> <20081210175228.GA23235@weber> <49404E13.1080008@mansfield.co.uk> Message-ID: <20081210232023.GA30279@weber> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:17:39PM +0000, Paul wrote: > Tom Ellis wrote: > > > > Please let me know by private e-mail when/where I can pick it up from you. > > sent email direct but it bounced back, so not sure why. > pipe to |bouncesaying 'Sorry, no mailbox here by that name.' > generated by btb-jaguarpaw-tom-lists-clug at tuschin.mythic-beasts.com > (ultimately generated from tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk) > local delivery failed > > contact me off-list using real email address please :-) Ah. Apologies, I disabled that account but forgot to put the updated address in the From: field. Tom From alastair at altrux.me.uk Wed Dec 17 23:34:24 2008 From: alastair at altrux.me.uk (Alastair Stevens) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:34:24 +0000 Subject: ZyXEL router offered Message-ID: <4536e91b0812171434y7ea074dfhc905d9c8139a7ee6@mail.gmail.com> Hi All Call me nuts, but I've decided to put my O2 router (Thomson TG585v7) into service at last. It has the worst interface I've ever seen on any router, and takes about 24hrs to configure properly, but having done that (masochism rules*) it actually works rather well and maintains higher connection speeds on ADSL2+ ... so far. This means my trusty ZyXEL P660-HW is now redundant, and I'm happy to offer it to the list. ?15 including packing + delivery, if anyone is interested. Otherwise it goes in the garage/technology museum for now. Not that it's obsolete by any means (model still selling at ?50 new) - it also supports ADSL2+ and all sorts of other things, and has served me well since mid-2005. The only I was having is that the Ethernet ports can only run stably at 10M - they flap constantly at 100M with my desktop, and this behaviour occurs under Linux and WinVi$ta as well, so I assume it's hardware-related. Thus far, on the O2 box, I'm running smoothly at 100M, but there may be another explanation! Any takers? I'll package and ship the ZyXEL, immaculate and boxed with bits, if there are.... Cheers AL * Setting up static DHCP leases involved several hours of trial and error, culminating in making experimental configs, backing them up and then examining them to see what changed. Eventually I deciphered the syntax, manual re-wrote the config to generate the DHCP leases, and uploaded it again. Seems to work so far, but whoever designed the web interface should be shot (slowly), preferably after having a cricket bat shoved somewhere interesting.... -- ======================================== ALASTAIR STEVENS * Web - www.altrux.me.uk * Blog - www.altrux.me.uk/blog.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081217/34b866ac/attachment-0002.htm From dom at latter.org Thu Dec 18 00:40:50 2008 From: dom at latter.org (Dom Latter) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:40:50 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support Message-ID: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> Having never got around to upgrading I'm still on Ubuntu 7.04 and I've been caught out by the end of life. I have until recently been switching between two different X drivers, one if I want to use the big wide-screen monitor, [1] the other if I want to use the laptop's own screen. (Dell latitude c400, as you ask). I'd use "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-i810" to go to laptop mode, and "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel" to go to widescreen mode. The i810 one can't run the big screen and the intel one can't drive the laptop screen. Unfortunately I am now away from home (and the big screen) and can't switch back to laptop mode cos the main feisty (i.e. 7.04) archives have been removed from the repositories. Is there an archive of the archives somewhere? It's a bugger to google for, as you can imagine. Could I point /etc/apt/sources.lst at the gutsy archives instead? I am loath to go for a full dist-upgrade until I can do a full backup etc. In fact part of the delay is that I think I will repartition and reinstall (reducing the Windows 2K partition to bare minimum or ditching it entirely). I just want a quick fix that will allow me to use the laptop as normal until I get home in two weeks time. Any ideas? Tomorrow I hope to plug in an external 1280x1024 monitor and see if that works okay - an external 1024x768 works, in a very flakey way. Right now I've got a borrowed laptop with a big screen booted off Puppy Linux and I'm running X apps over SSH (which is how I can send this email). Puppy Linux is great, BTW - fits on a 5cm disk and does pretty much everything you want. Has anybody ever had problems doing a dist-upgrade? And, err, anybody got a PCI (not PCI-E or PCI-X or whatever) video card going spare? Could use one for the docking station . [1] 1680x1050 From sam.kuper at uclmail.net Thu Dec 18 00:59:51 2008 From: sam.kuper at uclmail.net (Sam Kuper) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:59:51 +0000 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <4126b3450812171559k3b7a82a2x478ea3768040f1b2@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/17 Dom Latter > > I'd use "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-i810" to go to laptop mode, > and "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel" to go to widescreen > mode. The i810 one can't run the big screen and the intel one can't drive > the laptop screen. That's a devilish workaround. Did you try asking on the Ubuntu forums or mailing lists (or, failing that, the Debian ones) to find out if there might be a better solution than yanking the packages from an online repository each time? > Unfortunately I am now away from home (and the big screen) and can't switch > back to laptop mode cos the main feisty (i.e. 7.04) archives have been removed > from the repositories. If there wasn't a better solution, I'd have at least made a local repository with those two packages and listed it in /etc/apt/sources.list or whatever, so that I wasn't dependent on an internet connection - let alone dependent upon the repos being sustained. Are those packages on your Ubuntu 7.04 install disk? You might be able to use that as a repository. > Is there an archive of the archives somewhere? It's a bugger to google for, > as you can imagine. I'd be surprised if there weren't, but I expect the Ubuntu lists/fora/irc would be the best places to ask. > Could I point /etc/apt/sources.lst at the gutsy archives instead? Yes, but an apt-get upgrade might break. YMMV. > I am loath to go for a full dist-upgrade until I can do a full backup etc. > In fact part of the delay is that I think I will repartition and reinstall > (reducing the Windows 2K partition to bare minimum or ditching it entirely). > I just want a quick fix that will allow me to use the laptop as normal > until I get home in two weeks time. > > Any ideas? > [...] > Has anybody ever had problems doing a dist-upgrade? The dist-upgrades I've done have been in Debian, from Etch to Lenny. They've gone pretty smoothly. Nonetheless, I'd recommend you back up before trying one. It'd be great if you could report back to the list what your solution is, when you find it :) From dom at latter.org Thu Dec 18 01:05:50 2008 From: dom at latter.org (Dom Latter) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:05:50 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <200812180105.50517.dom@latter.org> On Thursday 18 December 2008 00:40:50 Dom Latter wrote: > Is there an archive of the archives somewhere? It's a bugger to google > for, as you can imagine. > > Could I point /etc/apt/sources.lst at the gutsy archives instead? As usual, sending an email has concentrated the mind and I've discovered old-releases.ubuntu.com which looks like I should be able to slot it into my sources.lst in place of archive.ubuntu.com. And I've now installed the old driver. Think I need to close all my apps down and see if I can start gnome up on the laptop screen... I may be some time... From wawrzek at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 01:09:57 2008 From: wawrzek at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Wawrzyniec_Niewodnicza=F1ski?=) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:09:57 +0000 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: 2008/12/17 Dom Latter : > Having never got around to upgrading I'm still on Ubuntu 7.04 and I've been > caught out by the end of life. I have until recently been switching between > two different X drivers, one if I want to use the big wide-screen monitor, [1] > the other if I want to use the laptop's own screen. (Dell latitude c400, > as you ask). > Can you send your Xorg.conf please? [...] > Has anybody ever had problems doing a dist-upgrade? Yes. My friend mentioned to me that U 8.04 -> 8.10 kill the system. I prefer to make the full reinstall. > And, err, anybody got a PCI (not PCI-E or PCI-X or whatever) video card > going spare? Could use one for the docking station I'' tried in my garage but it's rather AGP. Have you tried how new Live distrib works on your machine? I'll suggest Fedora10. Wawrzek -- Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski vel Wawrzek Larry or LarryN Linux User #177124 E-MAIL: wawrzek at gmail.com PhD in Quantum Chemistry WWW: http://wawrzek.name MSc in Molecular Engineering JID: larryn at chrome.pl From dom at latter.org Thu Dec 18 01:15:00 2008 From: dom at latter.org (Dom Latter) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:15:00 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: <4126b3450812171559k3b7a82a2x478ea3768040f1b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> <4126b3450812171559k3b7a82a2x478ea3768040f1b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812180115.00533.dom@latter.org> On Thursday 18 December 2008 00:59:51 Sam Kuper wrote: > 2008/12/17 Dom Latter > > > I'd use "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-i810" to go to laptop mode, > > and "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel" to go to widescreen > > mode. The i810 one can't run the big screen and the intel one can't > > drive the laptop screen. > > That's a devilish workaround. Did you try asking on the Ubuntu forums > or mailing lists (or, failing that, the Debian ones) to find out if > there might be a better solution than yanking the packages from an > online repository each time? It worked well enough for the rare occasions when I wanted to take the laptop away from the desk! > > Unfortunately I am now away from home (and the big screen) and can't > > switch back to laptop mode cos the main feisty (i.e. 7.04) archives have > > been removed from the repositories. > > If there wasn't a better solution, I'd have at least made a local > repository with those two packages and listed it in > /etc/apt/sources.list or whatever, so that I wasn't dependent on an > internet connection - let alone dependent upon the repos being > sustained. That was my plan and ISTR asking here about it. And on one occasion it seemed to work (IIRC) when I was offline so I assumed that I had a cache of it anyway. As usual, Life and Work get in the way of implementing things... > They've gone pretty smoothly. Nonetheless, I'd recommend you back up > before trying one. Well, I've got the really important stuff backedup on line, but not absolutely everything. > It'd be great if you could report back to the list what your solution > is, when you find it :) As per other post. Thanks for the swift reply. From dom at latter.org Thu Dec 18 01:22:58 2008 From: dom at latter.org (Dom Latter) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:22:58 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <200812180122.58236.dom@latter.org> On Thursday 18 December 2008 01:09:57 Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski wrote: > 2008/12/17 Dom Latter : > > Having never got around to upgrading I'm still on Ubuntu 7.04 and I've > > been caught out by the end of life. I have until recently been switching > > between two different X drivers, one if I want to use the big wide-screen > > monitor, [1] the other if I want to use the laptop's own screen. (Dell > > latitude c400, as you ask). > > Can you send your Xorg.conf please? You sure? > > Has anybody ever had problems doing a dist-upgrade? > > Yes. My friend mentioned to me that U 8.04 -> 8.10 kill the system. I > prefer to make the full reinstall. I did 8.04 to 8.10 on an old Thinkpad. Wireless stopped working and a couple of other issues came up. Can report back in a couple of weeks when I'm with the Thinkpad again, if you are interested. > Have you tried how new Live distrib works on your machine? I'll > suggest Fedora10. Any particular reason? Almost all my work is with Debian-style distros and I'll stick with that unless there's good reason to change. From wawrzek at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 01:27:43 2008 From: wawrzek at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Wawrzyniec_Niewodnicza=F1ski?=) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:27:43 +0000 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: <200812180122.58236.dom@latter.org> References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> <200812180122.58236.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: 2008/12/18 Dom Latter : > On Thursday 18 December 2008 01:09:57 Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski wrote: >> 2008/12/17 Dom Latter : >> > Having never got around to upgrading I'm still on Ubuntu 7.04 and I've >> > been caught out by the end of life. I have until recently been switching >> > between two different X drivers, one if I want to use the big wide-screen >> > monitor, [1] the other if I want to use the laptop's own screen. (Dell >> > latitude c400, as you ask). >> >> Can you send your Xorg.conf please? > > You sure? Why not. I played with Xorg.confs a bit. I.e. X server settings from Ubuntu wasn't the nicer in the case of my Ati 128 (until 8.10 which work good out of box). > I did 8.04 to 8.10 on an old Thinkpad. Wireless stopped working and a couple > of other issues came up. Can report back in a couple of weeks when I'm with > the Thinkpad again, if you are interested. > >> Have you tried how new Live distrib works on your machine? I'll >> suggest Fedora10. > > Any particular reason? Almost all my work is with Debian-style distros > and I'll stick with that unless there's good reason to change. Fedora seems to be the cutting edge of distributions (writing from Ubuntu ;) Wawrzek -- Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski vel Wawrzek Larry or LarryN Linux User #177124 E-MAIL: wawrzek at gmail.com PhD in Quantum Chemistry WWW: http://wawrzek.name MSc in Molecular Engineering JID: larryn at chrome.pl From dom at latter.org Thu Dec 18 01:30:36 2008 From: dom at latter.org (Dom Latter) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:30:36 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: <200812180115.00533.dom@latter.org> References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> <4126b3450812171559k3b7a82a2x478ea3768040f1b2@mail.gmail.com> <200812180115.00533.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <200812180130.36784.dom@latter.org> Success! Typed from the Gnome desktop on the laptop. From paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk Thu Dec 18 12:05:44 2008 From: paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk (Paul M) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:05:44 +0000 Subject: opensuse11.1 Message-ID: <494A2E88.7000302@mansfield.co.uk> I know you're all desperately waiting for this release (!), so in case it proves hard to get to the website, the URLs are below. They've lined up Akamai for the first few days to speed up downloads, so it'll be interesting to see if they can cope! http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/torrent/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-i686.torrent http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-i586.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/torrent/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-x86_64.torrent http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-x86_64.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/ From ejlilley at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 14:34:47 2008 From: ejlilley at gmail.com (Edward Lilley) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:34:47 +0000 Subject: opensuse11.1 In-Reply-To: <494A2E88.7000302@mansfield.co.uk> References: <494A2E88.7000302@mansfield.co.uk> Message-ID: <1229607287.18763.0.camel@delta.ugnus.uk.eu.org> On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 11:05 +0000, Paul M wrote: > I know you're all desperately waiting for this release (!), so in case > it proves hard to get to the website, the URLs are below. They've lined > up Akamai for the first few days to speed up downloads, so it'll be > interesting to see if they can cope! > > > http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/torrent/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-i686.torrent > http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-i586.iso > > http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/torrent/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-x86_64.torrent > http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-x86_64.iso > > http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/ > > _______________________________________________ > CLUG mailing list > clug at cambridge-lug.org > Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org Funnily enough, I've never used SuSE... how does it compare to Fedora? (in terms of stability, features &c.) From paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk Thu Dec 18 16:00:40 2008 From: paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk (Paul M) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:00:40 +0000 Subject: opensuse11.1 In-Reply-To: <1229607287.18763.0.camel@delta.ugnus.uk.eu.org> References: <494A2E88.7000302@mansfield.co.uk> <1229607287.18763.0.camel@delta.ugnus.uk.eu.org> Message-ID: <494A6598.9000503@mansfield.co.uk> Edward Lilley wrote: > On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 11:05 +0000, Paul M wrote: >> I know you're all desperately waiting for this release (!), so in case d'oh, they changed the URLs prior to release, sorry! anyway, the website didn't fall over, so www.opensuse.org is the place to go > Funnily enough, I've never used SuSE... how does it compare to Fedora? > (in terms of stability, features &c.) Not used fedora, but IME Fedora is a fast moving target, SuSE for me is trivial to install and admin (I unleashed a bunch of never-used-linux-before-in-anger developers on a rack full of dev servers and they didn't manage to break anything), and it's been fine. The only thing I can suggest is to try it out! From paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk Thu Dec 18 17:06:36 2008 From: paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk (Paul M) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:06:36 +0000 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> <200812180122.58236.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <494A750C.1060906@mansfield.co.uk> Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski wrote: > Fedora seems to be the cutting edge of distributions (writing from Ubuntu ;) I thought Mandriva was attempting to just over the bleeding edge and insanity :-) From paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk Fri Dec 19 13:36:11 2008 From: paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk (Paul M) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:36:11 +0000 Subject: Linux Firewalling In-Reply-To: <492C1DBB.8090002@mansfield.co.uk> References: <492BD7C0.7020604@gasops.co.uk> <7891dd830811250303p723fdc26pc6628c957c2d9608@mail.gmail.com> <492BDE50.9000007@gasops.co.uk> <7891dd830811250329r62dbb345n493cc3a4599118b9@mail.gmail.com> <492C1DBB.8090002@mansfield.co.uk> Message-ID: <494B953B.8080105@mansfield.co.uk> Paul M wrote: > cacti at it and monitor switch port usage. procurve switches also good, BTW1 clug members might be interested/amused to know I "ate my own dogfood" and we bought a Procurve chassis-based switch - the 5412zl which is a bundled deal of chassis + supervisor + dual PSU + four x 24-port wire-speed switch modules. It's far far cheaper that any equivalent Cisco chassis/modular product and is relatively frugal on power - 1.5A when both PSUs in use, barely an amp if only one. It has a few quirks but generally has been very good. I prefer Cisco configuration. Procurve's web interface is only good for the most basic setup, and just like cisco you really need to learn the command-line - procurve is very similar anyway - and it's dead easy to get started. BTW2, I bought a Cisco 2950-T24 off ebay for myself at home for next to nothing, there's many many of them up for sale, ideal if you want to learn a bit more advanced stuff, play with vlans etc or just segment your home LAN in order to have a guest lan and/or put your wireless into a DMZ, use 802.1x, freenac etc. Paul From wawrzek at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 23:23:59 2008 From: wawrzek at gmail.com (Wawrzyniec =?utf-8?Q?Niewodnicza=F1ski?=) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:23:59 +0000 Subject: LinkedIn members Message-ID: <20081221222357.GA6036@gmail.com> Hi, Yesterday I gave a try to ELive and I have to say it was the most refreshing Linux experience from the time I installed Crux some years ago. It is much more polished and looks better than Vista (but it obvious), Gnome, KDE4 but also MacOSX and I was using devel version of Elive which based on beta of E17! OK. There were some glitches i.e. Installed didn't work :) BTW. I would like to let you know that our LinkedIn group have 10 members ;) Wawrzek -- Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski vel Wawrzek, Larry or LarryN Linux User #177124 E-MAIL: wawrzek at gmail.com PhD in Quantum Chemistry WWW: http://wawrzek.name MSc in Molecular Engineering JID: larryn at chrome.pl From wawrzek at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 23:34:11 2008 From: wawrzek at gmail.com (Wawrzyniec =?utf-8?Q?Niewodnicza=F1ski?=) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:34:11 +0000 Subject: Elive [was Re: LinkedIn members] In-Reply-To: <20081221222357.GA6036@gmail.com> References: <20081221222357.GA6036@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081221223410.GA6242@gmail.com> Hi, Sorry for the title of previous message. Wawrzek -- Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski vel Wawrzek, Larry or LarryN Linux User #177124 E-MAIL: wawrzek at gmail.com PhD in Quantum Chemistry WWW: http://wawrzek.name MSc in Molecular Engineering JID: larryn at chrome.pl From sam.kuper at uclmail.net Mon Dec 29 19:04:29 2008 From: sam.kuper at uclmail.net (Sam Kuper) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:04:29 +0000 Subject: Pulster offer - Freerunner 299 eur In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4126b3450812291004p26df3e4br27ebd0130c7ae297@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/29 Christoph Pulster : > - we are offering Openmoko Freerunner units now for 299 eur. > This is AFAIK best price worldwide. GroupSales 10 units = 279 eur/each Besides me, is there anyone on the list in/near Cambridge or London (UK) who would like to be part of a bulk order (10 units or more)? If so, please could you post to the list (or to me directly, if you prefer, in which case I won't announce your name)? If we can get ten buyers, we could all save a bit of money... I'd also be interested in the debug board, and I see that pulster.de is offering a 10EUR/unit discount for orders of 5 or more units. So, again, if you'd like one too, let me know. Regards, Sam PS. I've cc'd the Cambridge LUG, because I know at least one member of that list has been thinking about buying a FreeRunner... From sam.kuper at uclmail.net Tue Dec 30 02:42:03 2008 From: sam.kuper at uclmail.net (Sam Kuper) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:42:03 +0000 Subject: Pulster offer - Freerunner 299 eur (Sam Kuper) In-Reply-To: <636782.62430.qm@web26307.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <636782.62430.qm@web26307.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4126b3450812291742w432ea585lb5cabdbb1ea124b6@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/29 Anthony Clearn : >[Sam Kuper wrote: ] >>If so, please could you post to the list (or to me directly, if you >>prefer, in which case I won't announce your name)? If we can get ten >>buyers, we could all save a bit of money... > > Hi, > have you checked here? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Group_sales#England Hi Anthony, Nope, I hadn't. I wasn't previously aware of that page, so thanks for pointing it out :) Dear all, Obviously, with a wiki page available for the purpose of co-ordinating group-buy efforts, emailing me to show your interest would be less useful than it would otherwise have been, so please don't bother now. Sorry for the noise. Sam From wawrzek at gmail.com Tue Dec 30 14:20:45 2008 From: wawrzek at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Wawrzyniec_Niewodnicza=F1ski?=) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:20:45 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge Message-ID: Hi, The years is coming to end so it means that other is starting. So it's good thing to starting something new. I would like to propose another CamLUG project. I started the Google map with Cambridge companies using Linux (and/or general FOSS) and I would like you to join. http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=116257976395264086847.0004593ed5b1f40f48fd4 Why do I think it good for CamLUG or more general for Linux/FOSS? It exposes: - our group. - FOSS related opportunities. - Cambridge as a good place to work and live for FOSS related people. - companies using (or creating) right tools it means giving us or FOSS developers bread, and without bread there are no code. - that Linux/FOSS is no more for a strange boys not playing football. - that Linux is important part of "economy based on knowledge" and its something worth to learn. - scale of Linux adoption. - ? Please free to add new entries, share you ideas etc... I know that James Tobin from Camalyn tried to add some entries but he failed. We haven't time to proper debug the issue so I will be glad if you confirm that I properly set the map. Wawrzek -- Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski vel Wawrzek Larry or LarryN Linux User #177124 E-MAIL: wawrzek at gmail.com PhD in Quantum Chemistry WWW: http://wawrzek.name MSc in Molecular Engineering JID: larryn at chrome.pl From will.pink at gmail.com Tue Dec 30 16:25:33 2008 From: will.pink at gmail.com (william pink) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:25:33 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I see no pointers on the map? I presume there is supposed to be. I searched long and hard for a FOSS/Linux sysadmin role and unfortunately couldn't find anything that could match what London had to offer (Which is to be expected I suppose). The pointer I would like to add is Marshall Aerospace which used (I imagine still does) Redhat ES4 in a LFS cluster. Regards, Will 2008/12/30 Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski > Hi, > > The years is coming to end so it means that other is starting. So it's > good thing to starting something new. > I would like to propose another CamLUG project. I started the Google > map with Cambridge companies using Linux (and/or general FOSS) and I > would like you to join. > > > http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=116257976395264086847.0004593ed5b1f40f48fd4 > > Why do I think it good for CamLUG or more general for Linux/FOSS? > > It exposes: > - our group. > - FOSS related opportunities. > - Cambridge as a good place to work and live for FOSS related people. > - companies using (or creating) right tools it means giving us or FOSS > developers bread, and without bread there are no code. > - that Linux/FOSS is no more for a strange boys not playing football. > - that Linux is important part of "economy based on knowledge" and its > something worth to learn. > - scale of Linux adoption. > - ? > > Please free to add new entries, share you ideas etc... > I know that James Tobin from Camalyn tried to add some entries but he > failed. We haven't time to proper debug the issue so I will be glad if > you confirm that I properly set the map. > > Wawrzek > -- > Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski vel Wawrzek Larry or LarryN > Linux User #177124 E-MAIL: wawrzek at gmail.com > PhD in Quantum Chemistry WWW: http://wawrzek.name > MSc in Molecular Engineering JID: larryn at chrome.pl > > _______________________________________________ > CLUG mailing list > clug at cambridge-lug.org > Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081230/f3bcf8ac/attachment-0002.htm From onepoint at starurchin.org Tue Dec 30 16:53:30 2008 From: onepoint at starurchin.org (Jeremy Henty) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:53:30 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081230155330.GB2935@omphalos.singularity> > 2008/12/30 Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski > > > I started the Google map with Cambridge companies using Linux > > (and/or general FOSS) .. Very neat! On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: > Hi, > > I see no pointers on the map? Works fine for me in Firefox, though it takes a few seconds for the pointer data to download. Maybe it was just taking a long time for your browser to get the data? Regards, Jeremy Henty From will.pink at gmail.com Tue Dec 30 17:04:26 2008 From: will.pink at gmail.com (william pink) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:04:26 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <20081230155330.GB2935@omphalos.singularity> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> <20081230155330.GB2935@omphalos.singularity> Message-ID: <7891dd830812300804x38f7c01eg598da2d93364e101@mail.gmail.com> That's bizarre it now works for me! Will On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Jeremy Henty wrote: > > > 2008/12/30 Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski > > > > > I started the Google map with Cambridge companies using Linux > > > (and/or general FOSS) .. > > Very neat! > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I see no pointers on the map? > > Works fine for me in Firefox, though it takes a few seconds for the > pointer data to download. Maybe it was just taking a long time for > your browser to get the data? > > Regards, > > Jeremy Henty > _______________________________________________ > CLUG mailing list > clug at cambridge-lug.org > Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081230/ee8d543f/attachment-0002.htm From onepoint at starurchin.org Tue Dec 30 17:49:02 2008 From: onepoint at starurchin.org (Jeremy Henty) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:49:02 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <7891dd830812300804x38f7c01eg598da2d93364e101@mail.gmail.com> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> <20081230155330.GB2935@omphalos.singularity> <7891dd830812300804x38f7c01eg598da2d93364e101@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081230164902.GC2935@omphalos.singularity> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 04:04:26PM +0000, william pink wrote: > That's bizarre it now works for me! Sounds like your InterTube choked just as you were downloading the pointer data the first time. There's a noticeable delay so's it's not that unlikely. Jeremy Henty -- In [high energy] quantum physics, to observe something, you have to create it. Now this sounds scarily close to bullshit. But if it is bullshit, then at least it's bullshit with equations. -- Frank Wilczek From sam.kuper at uclmail.net Tue Dec 30 18:41:48 2008 From: sam.kuper at uclmail.net (Sam Kuper) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:41:48 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4126b3450812300941v3cb4efadqf7abe47af3cb0fc@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/30 Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski > I know that James Tobin from Camalyn tried to add some entries but he > failed. We haven't time to proper debug the issue so I will be glad if > you confirm that I properly set the map. It didn't load properly the first time: everything worked except the "pins" on the map, which weren't visible. Refreshing the browser (Chrome on Vista, sorry!) made it work. From onepoint at starurchin.org Tue Dec 30 21:17:38 2008 From: onepoint at starurchin.org (Jeremy Henty) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:17:38 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081230201738.GD2935@omphalos.singularity> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: > > I searched long and hard for a FOSS/Linux sysadmin role and > unfortunately couldn't find anything that could match what London > had to offer... That's surprising. Isn't Cambridge all about cutting-edge technology? What does London have to offer? Regards, Jeremy Henty From tuxbox.guru at gmail.com Wed Dec 31 08:42:49 2008 From: tuxbox.guru at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:42:49 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <20081230201738.GD2935@omphalos.singularity> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> <20081230201738.GD2935@omphalos.singularity> Message-ID: <495B2279.3050207@gmail.com> Jeremy Henty wrote: > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: > >> I searched long and hard for a FOSS/Linux sysadmin role and >> unfortunately couldn't find anything that could match what London >> had to offer... >> > > That's surprising. Isn't Cambridge all about cutting-edge technology? > What does London have to offer? > > Regards, > > Jeremy Henty > _______________________________________________ > CLUG mailing list > clug at cambridge-lug.org > Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org > > Unfortunately I know of a few companies that use Linux/FOSS in their products that have jumped on the 'Redundancy' bandwagon and their VC funds have -apparently- dried up. As it stands, Linux jobs in Cambs are quite competitive, and some employers are using this to drive down salaries. I would definitely appreciate a list of Linux companies in the Cambs area just to avoid employment agents :D, but I am reluctant to add to it as the R+D scene is a bit wobbly. Just my 1p Richard From will.pink at gmail.com Wed Dec 31 13:15:54 2008 From: will.pink at gmail.com (william pink) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:15:54 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <20081230201738.GD2935@omphalos.singularity> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> <20081230201738.GD2935@omphalos.singularity> Message-ID: <7891dd830812310415k56559c4cq4f19e8b90106ba2@mail.gmail.com> Well for a start there is more opportunity's in London and the salaries just don't compare, I wouldn't for swap for a job in Cambridge now though as I am happily living in London and have a role I really enjoy. One thing I did notice is the Cambridge based roles wanted the earth in terms of experience and skills whereas as my London was more accommodating to training etc Regards, Will On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Jeremy Henty wrote: > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: > > > > I searched long and hard for a FOSS/Linux sysadmin role and > > unfortunately couldn't find anything that could match what London > > had to offer... > > That's surprising. Isn't Cambridge all about cutting-edge technology? > What does London have to offer? > > Regards, > > Jeremy Henty > _______________________________________________ > CLUG mailing list > clug at cambridge-lug.org > Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081231/11890f9c/attachment-0001.htm From will.pink at gmail.com Wed Dec 31 13:17:06 2008 From: will.pink at gmail.com (william pink) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:17:06 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <7891dd830812310415k56559c4cq4f19e8b90106ba2@mail.gmail.com> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> <20081230201738.GD2935@omphalos.singularity> <7891dd830812310415k56559c4cq4f19e8b90106ba2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7891dd830812310417y414e0f4i618103a300daf22b@mail.gmail.com> Apologies for the awful grammar and punctuation I should of proof read it. On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 12:15 PM, william pink wrote: > Well for a start there is more opportunity's in London and the salaries > just don't compare, I wouldn't for swap for a job in Cambridge now though as > I am happily living in London and have a role I really enjoy. One thing I > did notice is the Cambridge based roles wanted the earth in terms of > experience and skills whereas as my London was more accommodating to > training etc > > Regards, > Will > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Jeremy Henty wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: >> > >> > I searched long and hard for a FOSS/Linux sysadmin role and >> > unfortunately couldn't find anything that could match what London >> > had to offer... >> >> That's surprising. Isn't Cambridge all about cutting-edge technology? >> What does London have to offer? >> >> Regards, >> >> Jeremy Henty >> _______________________________________________ >> CLUG mailing list >> clug at cambridge-lug.org >> Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081231/2d43b090/attachment-0002.htm From clug at dziewulski.com Wed Dec 31 14:59:46 2008 From: clug at dziewulski.com (Jan M. Dziewulski) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:59:46 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <7891dd830812310415k56559c4cq4f19e8b90106ba2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: They are probably aiming it more at ppl who have just graduated from our local Uni. A lot of them already have a lot of experience, admittedly not paid for but could obtain that fairly easily. Just my 2p... -- Janek On 31/12/2008 12:15, St. John's flock of rabid geese heard william pink say: > Well for a start there is more opportunity's in London and the salaries just > don't compare, I wouldn't for swap for a job in Cambridge now though as I am > happily living in London and have a role I really enjoy. One thing I did > notice is the Cambridge based roles wanted the earth in terms of experience > and skills whereas as my London was more accommodating to training etc > > Regards, > Will > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Jeremy Henty wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: >>> >>> I searched long and hard for a FOSS/Linux sysadmin role and >>> unfortunately couldn't find anything that could match what London >>> had to offer... >> >> That's surprising. Isn't Cambridge all about cutting-edge technology? >> What does London have to offer? >> >> Regards, >> >> Jeremy Henty >> _______________________________________________ >> CLUG mailing list >> clug at cambridge-lug.org >> Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > CLUG mailing list > clug at cambridge-lug.org > Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org From onepoint at starurchin.org Mon Dec 8 16:02:36 2008 From: onepoint at starurchin.org (Jeremy Henty) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:02:36 +0000 Subject: Can anyone offer help with the JROX Affiliate Marketing (JAM) software? Message-ID: <20081208150236.GD3012@omphalos.singularity> I'm trying to help bail out a friend whose installation is playing up. I've posted on the support forums but haven't got any useful help yet. If anyone on the list can answer questions about this software I'd be very grateful. The problem is that the jx_impressions table is filling up (nearly a year's worth of data). I think it's meant to be cleared out after 90 days and I can't see why this isn't happening. Is this something the JAM cron job is meant to do? Feel free to reply to my email if you'd rather not post non-Linux stuff to the list. Thanks in advance, Jeremy Henty From tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk Tue Dec 9 12:11:34 2008 From: tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk (Tom Ellis) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:11:34 +0000 Subject: WTB: laptop Message-ID: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or less. Does anyone have anything suitable spare? Thanks, Tom From paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk Tue Dec 9 13:23:24 2008 From: paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk (Paul M) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:23:24 +0000 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> Message-ID: <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> Tom Ellis wrote: > I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or less. > Does anyone have anything suitable spare? have you checked Dell Outlet (UK) - there are often some excellent bargains to be had. the only thing you need to be careful about is the screen resolution if you want one with a higher res (e.g. 1440x900 instead of say 1200x800). From tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk Tue Dec 9 13:27:16 2008 From: tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk (Tom Ellis) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 12:27:16 +0000 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> Message-ID: <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:23:24PM +0000, Paul M wrote: > Tom Ellis wrote: > > I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or less. > > Does anyone have anything suitable spare? > > have you checked Dell Outlet (UK) - there are often some excellent > bargains to be had. I've never heard of that before, thanks. Unfortunately it's out of my price range. I expect only to be able to get something really old for my 100 quid. From sam.kuper at uclmail.net Tue Dec 9 14:02:29 2008 From: sam.kuper at uclmail.net (Sam Kuper) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 13:02:29 +0000 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> Message-ID: <4126b3450812090502j50ccd7b2xd2030b7e4ec96c85@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/9 Tom Ellis > On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:23:24PM +0000, Paul M wrote: > > Tom Ellis wrote: > > > I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or > less. > > > Does anyone have anything suitable spare? > > > > have you checked Dell Outlet (UK) - there are often some excellent > > bargains to be had. > > I've never heard of that before, thanks. Unfortunately it's out of my > price > range. I expect only to be able to get something really old for my 100 > quid. > Tried Freecycle? Otherwise, for cheap refurb laptops, see: http://www.computerresale.co.uk/laptop.html and http://www.studentcomputers.co.uk/laptops/refurbished-laptops-c-41.html eBay may turn up some options too. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081209/549978ad/attachment-0002.htm From dom at latter.org Tue Dec 9 16:39:23 2008 From: dom at latter.org (Dom Latter) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 16:39:23 +0100 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> Message-ID: <200812091639.23829.dom@latter.org> On Tuesday 09 December 2008 12:11:34 Tom Ellis wrote: > I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or less. > Does anyone have anything suitable spare? Keep an eye on: http://www.cam.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wwwnews?grp=ucam.adverts.forsale.computer Lots of overseas graduate students going home right now. From dom at latter.org Wed Dec 10 11:43:48 2008 From: dom at latter.org (Dom Latter) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:43:48 +0100 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <200812091639.23829.dom@latter.org> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <200812091639.23829.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <200812101143.49697.dom@latter.org> On Tuesday 09 December 2008 16:39:23 Dom Latter wrote: > On Tuesday 09 December 2008 12:11:34 Tom Ellis wrote: > > I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or > > less. Does anyone have anything suitable spare? > > Keep an eye on: > http://www.cam.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wwwnews?grp=ucam.adverts.forsale.computer > > Lots of overseas graduate students going home right now. I'll clarify that a bit - there's often bargains there as people leave the country looking for a quick sale. They want to use their kit up until the morning of departure... but a lot of what's on sale is only a year or two old so more than ?100. http://www.sterlingxs.co.uk/ is a place I've bookmarked for cheap laptops. Only thing in the hundred quid range at the mo' is a Toughbook. Try asking on cam.misc. From sam.kuper at uclmail.net Wed Dec 10 12:52:17 2008 From: sam.kuper at uclmail.net (Sam Kuper) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:52:17 +0000 Subject: Fwd: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <120cf9d40812090653o2ff153f9uccbd7545eba992d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> <4126b3450812090502j50ccd7b2xd2030b7e4ec96c85@mail.gmail.com> <120cf9d40812090653o2ff153f9uccbd7545eba992d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4126b3450812100352i19babcb1p5f226087a7620f1b@mail.gmail.com> I was sent the following URL by a member of the list who I think meant to post it to the list rather than to me: http://www.aflsocialenterprise.org/reboot/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081210/2cac48a4/attachment-0002.htm From tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk Wed Dec 10 13:26:20 2008 From: tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk (Tom Ellis) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:26:20 +0000 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <200812101143.49697.dom@latter.org> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <200812091639.23829.dom@latter.org> <200812101143.49697.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <20081210122619.GA2749@weber> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:43:48AM +0100, Dom Latter wrote: > On Tuesday 09 December 2008 16:39:23 Dom Latter wrote: > > On Tuesday 09 December 2008 12:11:34 Tom Ellis wrote: > > > I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or > > > less. Does anyone have anything suitable spare? > > > > Keep an eye on: > > http://www.cam.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wwwnews?grp=ucam.adverts.forsale.computer > > > > Lots of overseas graduate students going home right now. > > I'll clarify that a bit - there's often bargains there as people leave the > country looking for a quick sale. They want to use their kit up until the > morning of departure... but a lot of what's on sale is only a year or two > old so more than ?100. Yup, my eyes are fixed on u.a.f.c. I've picked up many a bargain there before (and given many a bargain too). > http://www.sterlingxs.co.uk/ is a place I've bookmarked for cheap laptops. > Only thing in the hundred quid range at the mo' is a Toughbook. Never heard of it. Thanks for the pointer. I'll go and have a look. Tom From tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk Wed Dec 10 13:26:49 2008 From: tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk (Tom Ellis) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:26:49 +0000 Subject: Fwd: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <4126b3450812100352i19babcb1p5f226087a7620f1b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> <4126b3450812090502j50ccd7b2xd2030b7e4ec96c85@mail.gmail.com> <120cf9d40812090653o2ff153f9uccbd7545eba992d9@mail.gmail.com> <4126b3450812100352i19babcb1p5f226087a7620f1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081210122649.GB2749@weber> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:52:17AM +0000, Sam Kuper wrote: > I was sent the following URL by a member of the list who I think meant to > post it to the list rather than to me: > > http://www.aflsocialenterprise.org/reboot/ Ah yes. I have given a computer to them once in the past. I'll have a look if they have anything suitable for me. Thanks, Tom From paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk Wed Dec 10 18:49:58 2008 From: paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk (Paul M) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:49:58 +0000 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> Message-ID: <49400146.1040707@mansfield.co.uk> Tom Ellis wrote: > On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:23:24PM +0000, Paul M wrote: >> Tom Ellis wrote: >>> I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or less. >>> Does anyone have anything suitable spare? >> have you checked Dell Outlet (UK) - there are often some excellent >> bargains to be had. > > I've never heard of that before, thanks. Unfortunately it's out of my price > range. I expect only to be able to get something really old for my 100 > quid. I have an old Tosh I was given that needs some TLC, you're welcome to rescue it as I really don't have time for it TBH. From tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk Wed Dec 10 18:52:28 2008 From: tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk (Tom Ellis) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:52:28 +0000 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <49400146.1040707@mansfield.co.uk> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> <49400146.1040707@mansfield.co.uk> Message-ID: <20081210175228.GA23235@weber> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 05:49:58PM +0000, Paul M wrote: > Tom Ellis wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:23:24PM +0000, Paul M wrote: > >> Tom Ellis wrote: > >>> I would like to buy a second hand laptop, probably for 100 pounds or less. > >>> Does anyone have anything suitable spare? > >> have you checked Dell Outlet (UK) - there are often some excellent > >> bargains to be had. > > > > I've never heard of that before, thanks. Unfortunately it's out of my price > > range. I expect only to be able to get something really old for my 100 > > quid. > > I have an old Tosh I was given that needs some TLC, you're welcome to > rescue it as I really don't have time for it TBH. That would be awesome, cheers. I'll see what I can do to repair it. Please let me know by private e-mail when/where I can pick it up from you. Tom From paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk Thu Dec 11 00:17:39 2008 From: paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:17:39 +0000 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <20081210175228.GA23235@weber> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> <49400146.1040707@mansfield.co.uk> <20081210175228.GA23235@weber> Message-ID: <49404E13.1080008@mansfield.co.uk> Tom Ellis wrote: > > Please let me know by private e-mail when/where I can pick it up from you. > sent email direct but it bounced back, so not sure why. pipe to |bouncesaying 'Sorry, no mailbox here by that name.' generated by btb-jaguarpaw-tom-lists-clug at tuschin.mythic-beasts.com (ultimately generated from tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk) local delivery failed contact me off-list using real email address please :-) From tom-lists-clug2 at jaguarpaw.co.uk Thu Dec 11 00:20:23 2008 From: tom-lists-clug2 at jaguarpaw.co.uk (Tom Ellis) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:20:23 +0000 Subject: WTB: laptop In-Reply-To: <49404E13.1080008@mansfield.co.uk> References: <20081209111134.GA5785@weber> <493E633C.6010404@mansfield.co.uk> <20081209122716.GA9150@weber> <49400146.1040707@mansfield.co.uk> <20081210175228.GA23235@weber> <49404E13.1080008@mansfield.co.uk> Message-ID: <20081210232023.GA30279@weber> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:17:39PM +0000, Paul wrote: > Tom Ellis wrote: > > > > Please let me know by private e-mail when/where I can pick it up from you. > > sent email direct but it bounced back, so not sure why. > pipe to |bouncesaying 'Sorry, no mailbox here by that name.' > generated by btb-jaguarpaw-tom-lists-clug at tuschin.mythic-beasts.com > (ultimately generated from tom-lists-clug at jaguarpaw.co.uk) > local delivery failed > > contact me off-list using real email address please :-) Ah. Apologies, I disabled that account but forgot to put the updated address in the From: field. Tom From alastair at altrux.me.uk Wed Dec 17 23:34:24 2008 From: alastair at altrux.me.uk (Alastair Stevens) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:34:24 +0000 Subject: ZyXEL router offered Message-ID: <4536e91b0812171434y7ea074dfhc905d9c8139a7ee6@mail.gmail.com> Hi All Call me nuts, but I've decided to put my O2 router (Thomson TG585v7) into service at last. It has the worst interface I've ever seen on any router, and takes about 24hrs to configure properly, but having done that (masochism rules*) it actually works rather well and maintains higher connection speeds on ADSL2+ ... so far. This means my trusty ZyXEL P660-HW is now redundant, and I'm happy to offer it to the list. ?15 including packing + delivery, if anyone is interested. Otherwise it goes in the garage/technology museum for now. Not that it's obsolete by any means (model still selling at ?50 new) - it also supports ADSL2+ and all sorts of other things, and has served me well since mid-2005. The only I was having is that the Ethernet ports can only run stably at 10M - they flap constantly at 100M with my desktop, and this behaviour occurs under Linux and WinVi$ta as well, so I assume it's hardware-related. Thus far, on the O2 box, I'm running smoothly at 100M, but there may be another explanation! Any takers? I'll package and ship the ZyXEL, immaculate and boxed with bits, if there are.... Cheers AL * Setting up static DHCP leases involved several hours of trial and error, culminating in making experimental configs, backing them up and then examining them to see what changed. Eventually I deciphered the syntax, manual re-wrote the config to generate the DHCP leases, and uploaded it again. Seems to work so far, but whoever designed the web interface should be shot (slowly), preferably after having a cricket bat shoved somewhere interesting.... -- ======================================== ALASTAIR STEVENS * Web - www.altrux.me.uk * Blog - www.altrux.me.uk/blog.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081217/34b866ac/attachment-0003.htm From dom at latter.org Thu Dec 18 00:40:50 2008 From: dom at latter.org (Dom Latter) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:40:50 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support Message-ID: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> Having never got around to upgrading I'm still on Ubuntu 7.04 and I've been caught out by the end of life. I have until recently been switching between two different X drivers, one if I want to use the big wide-screen monitor, [1] the other if I want to use the laptop's own screen. (Dell latitude c400, as you ask). I'd use "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-i810" to go to laptop mode, and "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel" to go to widescreen mode. The i810 one can't run the big screen and the intel one can't drive the laptop screen. Unfortunately I am now away from home (and the big screen) and can't switch back to laptop mode cos the main feisty (i.e. 7.04) archives have been removed from the repositories. Is there an archive of the archives somewhere? It's a bugger to google for, as you can imagine. Could I point /etc/apt/sources.lst at the gutsy archives instead? I am loath to go for a full dist-upgrade until I can do a full backup etc. In fact part of the delay is that I think I will repartition and reinstall (reducing the Windows 2K partition to bare minimum or ditching it entirely). I just want a quick fix that will allow me to use the laptop as normal until I get home in two weeks time. Any ideas? Tomorrow I hope to plug in an external 1280x1024 monitor and see if that works okay - an external 1024x768 works, in a very flakey way. Right now I've got a borrowed laptop with a big screen booted off Puppy Linux and I'm running X apps over SSH (which is how I can send this email). Puppy Linux is great, BTW - fits on a 5cm disk and does pretty much everything you want. Has anybody ever had problems doing a dist-upgrade? And, err, anybody got a PCI (not PCI-E or PCI-X or whatever) video card going spare? Could use one for the docking station . [1] 1680x1050 From sam.kuper at uclmail.net Thu Dec 18 00:59:51 2008 From: sam.kuper at uclmail.net (Sam Kuper) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:59:51 +0000 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <4126b3450812171559k3b7a82a2x478ea3768040f1b2@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/17 Dom Latter > > I'd use "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-i810" to go to laptop mode, > and "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel" to go to widescreen > mode. The i810 one can't run the big screen and the intel one can't drive > the laptop screen. That's a devilish workaround. Did you try asking on the Ubuntu forums or mailing lists (or, failing that, the Debian ones) to find out if there might be a better solution than yanking the packages from an online repository each time? > Unfortunately I am now away from home (and the big screen) and can't switch > back to laptop mode cos the main feisty (i.e. 7.04) archives have been removed > from the repositories. If there wasn't a better solution, I'd have at least made a local repository with those two packages and listed it in /etc/apt/sources.list or whatever, so that I wasn't dependent on an internet connection - let alone dependent upon the repos being sustained. Are those packages on your Ubuntu 7.04 install disk? You might be able to use that as a repository. > Is there an archive of the archives somewhere? It's a bugger to google for, > as you can imagine. I'd be surprised if there weren't, but I expect the Ubuntu lists/fora/irc would be the best places to ask. > Could I point /etc/apt/sources.lst at the gutsy archives instead? Yes, but an apt-get upgrade might break. YMMV. > I am loath to go for a full dist-upgrade until I can do a full backup etc. > In fact part of the delay is that I think I will repartition and reinstall > (reducing the Windows 2K partition to bare minimum or ditching it entirely). > I just want a quick fix that will allow me to use the laptop as normal > until I get home in two weeks time. > > Any ideas? > [...] > Has anybody ever had problems doing a dist-upgrade? The dist-upgrades I've done have been in Debian, from Etch to Lenny. They've gone pretty smoothly. Nonetheless, I'd recommend you back up before trying one. It'd be great if you could report back to the list what your solution is, when you find it :) From dom at latter.org Thu Dec 18 01:05:50 2008 From: dom at latter.org (Dom Latter) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:05:50 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <200812180105.50517.dom@latter.org> On Thursday 18 December 2008 00:40:50 Dom Latter wrote: > Is there an archive of the archives somewhere? It's a bugger to google > for, as you can imagine. > > Could I point /etc/apt/sources.lst at the gutsy archives instead? As usual, sending an email has concentrated the mind and I've discovered old-releases.ubuntu.com which looks like I should be able to slot it into my sources.lst in place of archive.ubuntu.com. And I've now installed the old driver. Think I need to close all my apps down and see if I can start gnome up on the laptop screen... I may be some time... From wawrzek at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 01:09:57 2008 From: wawrzek at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Wawrzyniec_Niewodnicza=F1ski?=) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:09:57 +0000 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: 2008/12/17 Dom Latter : > Having never got around to upgrading I'm still on Ubuntu 7.04 and I've been > caught out by the end of life. I have until recently been switching between > two different X drivers, one if I want to use the big wide-screen monitor, [1] > the other if I want to use the laptop's own screen. (Dell latitude c400, > as you ask). > Can you send your Xorg.conf please? [...] > Has anybody ever had problems doing a dist-upgrade? Yes. My friend mentioned to me that U 8.04 -> 8.10 kill the system. I prefer to make the full reinstall. > And, err, anybody got a PCI (not PCI-E or PCI-X or whatever) video card > going spare? Could use one for the docking station I'' tried in my garage but it's rather AGP. Have you tried how new Live distrib works on your machine? I'll suggest Fedora10. Wawrzek -- Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski vel Wawrzek Larry or LarryN Linux User #177124 E-MAIL: wawrzek at gmail.com PhD in Quantum Chemistry WWW: http://wawrzek.name MSc in Molecular Engineering JID: larryn at chrome.pl From dom at latter.org Thu Dec 18 01:15:00 2008 From: dom at latter.org (Dom Latter) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:15:00 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: <4126b3450812171559k3b7a82a2x478ea3768040f1b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> <4126b3450812171559k3b7a82a2x478ea3768040f1b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812180115.00533.dom@latter.org> On Thursday 18 December 2008 00:59:51 Sam Kuper wrote: > 2008/12/17 Dom Latter > > > I'd use "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-i810" to go to laptop mode, > > and "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel" to go to widescreen > > mode. The i810 one can't run the big screen and the intel one can't > > drive the laptop screen. > > That's a devilish workaround. Did you try asking on the Ubuntu forums > or mailing lists (or, failing that, the Debian ones) to find out if > there might be a better solution than yanking the packages from an > online repository each time? It worked well enough for the rare occasions when I wanted to take the laptop away from the desk! > > Unfortunately I am now away from home (and the big screen) and can't > > switch back to laptop mode cos the main feisty (i.e. 7.04) archives have > > been removed from the repositories. > > If there wasn't a better solution, I'd have at least made a local > repository with those two packages and listed it in > /etc/apt/sources.list or whatever, so that I wasn't dependent on an > internet connection - let alone dependent upon the repos being > sustained. That was my plan and ISTR asking here about it. And on one occasion it seemed to work (IIRC) when I was offline so I assumed that I had a cache of it anyway. As usual, Life and Work get in the way of implementing things... > They've gone pretty smoothly. Nonetheless, I'd recommend you back up > before trying one. Well, I've got the really important stuff backedup on line, but not absolutely everything. > It'd be great if you could report back to the list what your solution > is, when you find it :) As per other post. Thanks for the swift reply. From dom at latter.org Thu Dec 18 01:22:58 2008 From: dom at latter.org (Dom Latter) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:22:58 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <200812180122.58236.dom@latter.org> On Thursday 18 December 2008 01:09:57 Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski wrote: > 2008/12/17 Dom Latter : > > Having never got around to upgrading I'm still on Ubuntu 7.04 and I've > > been caught out by the end of life. I have until recently been switching > > between two different X drivers, one if I want to use the big wide-screen > > monitor, [1] the other if I want to use the laptop's own screen. (Dell > > latitude c400, as you ask). > > Can you send your Xorg.conf please? You sure? > > Has anybody ever had problems doing a dist-upgrade? > > Yes. My friend mentioned to me that U 8.04 -> 8.10 kill the system. I > prefer to make the full reinstall. I did 8.04 to 8.10 on an old Thinkpad. Wireless stopped working and a couple of other issues came up. Can report back in a couple of weeks when I'm with the Thinkpad again, if you are interested. > Have you tried how new Live distrib works on your machine? I'll > suggest Fedora10. Any particular reason? Almost all my work is with Debian-style distros and I'll stick with that unless there's good reason to change. From wawrzek at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 01:27:43 2008 From: wawrzek at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Wawrzyniec_Niewodnicza=F1ski?=) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:27:43 +0000 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: <200812180122.58236.dom@latter.org> References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> <200812180122.58236.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: 2008/12/18 Dom Latter : > On Thursday 18 December 2008 01:09:57 Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski wrote: >> 2008/12/17 Dom Latter : >> > Having never got around to upgrading I'm still on Ubuntu 7.04 and I've >> > been caught out by the end of life. I have until recently been switching >> > between two different X drivers, one if I want to use the big wide-screen >> > monitor, [1] the other if I want to use the laptop's own screen. (Dell >> > latitude c400, as you ask). >> >> Can you send your Xorg.conf please? > > You sure? Why not. I played with Xorg.confs a bit. I.e. X server settings from Ubuntu wasn't the nicer in the case of my Ati 128 (until 8.10 which work good out of box). > I did 8.04 to 8.10 on an old Thinkpad. Wireless stopped working and a couple > of other issues came up. Can report back in a couple of weeks when I'm with > the Thinkpad again, if you are interested. > >> Have you tried how new Live distrib works on your machine? I'll >> suggest Fedora10. > > Any particular reason? Almost all my work is with Debian-style distros > and I'll stick with that unless there's good reason to change. Fedora seems to be the cutting edge of distributions (writing from Ubuntu ;) Wawrzek -- Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski vel Wawrzek Larry or LarryN Linux User #177124 E-MAIL: wawrzek at gmail.com PhD in Quantum Chemistry WWW: http://wawrzek.name MSc in Molecular Engineering JID: larryn at chrome.pl From dom at latter.org Thu Dec 18 01:30:36 2008 From: dom at latter.org (Dom Latter) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:30:36 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: <200812180115.00533.dom@latter.org> References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> <4126b3450812171559k3b7a82a2x478ea3768040f1b2@mail.gmail.com> <200812180115.00533.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <200812180130.36784.dom@latter.org> Success! Typed from the Gnome desktop on the laptop. From paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk Thu Dec 18 12:05:44 2008 From: paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk (Paul M) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:05:44 +0000 Subject: opensuse11.1 Message-ID: <494A2E88.7000302@mansfield.co.uk> I know you're all desperately waiting for this release (!), so in case it proves hard to get to the website, the URLs are below. They've lined up Akamai for the first few days to speed up downloads, so it'll be interesting to see if they can cope! http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/torrent/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-i686.torrent http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-i586.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/torrent/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-x86_64.torrent http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-x86_64.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/ From ejlilley at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 14:34:47 2008 From: ejlilley at gmail.com (Edward Lilley) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:34:47 +0000 Subject: opensuse11.1 In-Reply-To: <494A2E88.7000302@mansfield.co.uk> References: <494A2E88.7000302@mansfield.co.uk> Message-ID: <1229607287.18763.0.camel@delta.ugnus.uk.eu.org> On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 11:05 +0000, Paul M wrote: > I know you're all desperately waiting for this release (!), so in case > it proves hard to get to the website, the URLs are below. They've lined > up Akamai for the first few days to speed up downloads, so it'll be > interesting to see if they can cope! > > > http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/torrent/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-i686.torrent > http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-i586.iso > > http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/torrent/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-x86_64.torrent > http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-x86_64.iso > > http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/ > > _______________________________________________ > CLUG mailing list > clug at cambridge-lug.org > Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org Funnily enough, I've never used SuSE... how does it compare to Fedora? (in terms of stability, features &c.) From paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk Thu Dec 18 16:00:40 2008 From: paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk (Paul M) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:00:40 +0000 Subject: opensuse11.1 In-Reply-To: <1229607287.18763.0.camel@delta.ugnus.uk.eu.org> References: <494A2E88.7000302@mansfield.co.uk> <1229607287.18763.0.camel@delta.ugnus.uk.eu.org> Message-ID: <494A6598.9000503@mansfield.co.uk> Edward Lilley wrote: > On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 11:05 +0000, Paul M wrote: >> I know you're all desperately waiting for this release (!), so in case d'oh, they changed the URLs prior to release, sorry! anyway, the website didn't fall over, so www.opensuse.org is the place to go > Funnily enough, I've never used SuSE... how does it compare to Fedora? > (in terms of stability, features &c.) Not used fedora, but IME Fedora is a fast moving target, SuSE for me is trivial to install and admin (I unleashed a bunch of never-used-linux-before-in-anger developers on a rack full of dev servers and they didn't manage to break anything), and it's been fine. The only thing I can suggest is to try it out! From paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk Thu Dec 18 17:06:36 2008 From: paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk (Paul M) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:06:36 +0000 Subject: Ubuntu 7.04 support In-Reply-To: References: <200812180040.50901.dom@latter.org> <200812180122.58236.dom@latter.org> Message-ID: <494A750C.1060906@mansfield.co.uk> Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski wrote: > Fedora seems to be the cutting edge of distributions (writing from Ubuntu ;) I thought Mandriva was attempting to just over the bleeding edge and insanity :-) From paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk Fri Dec 19 13:36:11 2008 From: paul-clug at mansfield.co.uk (Paul M) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:36:11 +0000 Subject: Linux Firewalling In-Reply-To: <492C1DBB.8090002@mansfield.co.uk> References: <492BD7C0.7020604@gasops.co.uk> <7891dd830811250303p723fdc26pc6628c957c2d9608@mail.gmail.com> <492BDE50.9000007@gasops.co.uk> <7891dd830811250329r62dbb345n493cc3a4599118b9@mail.gmail.com> <492C1DBB.8090002@mansfield.co.uk> Message-ID: <494B953B.8080105@mansfield.co.uk> Paul M wrote: > cacti at it and monitor switch port usage. procurve switches also good, BTW1 clug members might be interested/amused to know I "ate my own dogfood" and we bought a Procurve chassis-based switch - the 5412zl which is a bundled deal of chassis + supervisor + dual PSU + four x 24-port wire-speed switch modules. It's far far cheaper that any equivalent Cisco chassis/modular product and is relatively frugal on power - 1.5A when both PSUs in use, barely an amp if only one. It has a few quirks but generally has been very good. I prefer Cisco configuration. Procurve's web interface is only good for the most basic setup, and just like cisco you really need to learn the command-line - procurve is very similar anyway - and it's dead easy to get started. BTW2, I bought a Cisco 2950-T24 off ebay for myself at home for next to nothing, there's many many of them up for sale, ideal if you want to learn a bit more advanced stuff, play with vlans etc or just segment your home LAN in order to have a guest lan and/or put your wireless into a DMZ, use 802.1x, freenac etc. Paul From wawrzek at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 23:23:59 2008 From: wawrzek at gmail.com (Wawrzyniec =?utf-8?Q?Niewodnicza=F1ski?=) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:23:59 +0000 Subject: LinkedIn members Message-ID: <20081221222357.GA6036@gmail.com> Hi, Yesterday I gave a try to ELive and I have to say it was the most refreshing Linux experience from the time I installed Crux some years ago. It is much more polished and looks better than Vista (but it obvious), Gnome, KDE4 but also MacOSX and I was using devel version of Elive which based on beta of E17! OK. There were some glitches i.e. Installed didn't work :) BTW. I would like to let you know that our LinkedIn group have 10 members ;) Wawrzek -- Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski vel Wawrzek, Larry or LarryN Linux User #177124 E-MAIL: wawrzek at gmail.com PhD in Quantum Chemistry WWW: http://wawrzek.name MSc in Molecular Engineering JID: larryn at chrome.pl From wawrzek at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 23:34:11 2008 From: wawrzek at gmail.com (Wawrzyniec =?utf-8?Q?Niewodnicza=F1ski?=) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:34:11 +0000 Subject: Elive [was Re: LinkedIn members] In-Reply-To: <20081221222357.GA6036@gmail.com> References: <20081221222357.GA6036@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081221223410.GA6242@gmail.com> Hi, Sorry for the title of previous message. Wawrzek -- Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski vel Wawrzek, Larry or LarryN Linux User #177124 E-MAIL: wawrzek at gmail.com PhD in Quantum Chemistry WWW: http://wawrzek.name MSc in Molecular Engineering JID: larryn at chrome.pl From sam.kuper at uclmail.net Mon Dec 29 19:04:29 2008 From: sam.kuper at uclmail.net (Sam Kuper) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:04:29 +0000 Subject: Pulster offer - Freerunner 299 eur In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4126b3450812291004p26df3e4br27ebd0130c7ae297@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/29 Christoph Pulster : > - we are offering Openmoko Freerunner units now for 299 eur. > This is AFAIK best price worldwide. GroupSales 10 units = 279 eur/each Besides me, is there anyone on the list in/near Cambridge or London (UK) who would like to be part of a bulk order (10 units or more)? If so, please could you post to the list (or to me directly, if you prefer, in which case I won't announce your name)? If we can get ten buyers, we could all save a bit of money... I'd also be interested in the debug board, and I see that pulster.de is offering a 10EUR/unit discount for orders of 5 or more units. So, again, if you'd like one too, let me know. Regards, Sam PS. I've cc'd the Cambridge LUG, because I know at least one member of that list has been thinking about buying a FreeRunner... From sam.kuper at uclmail.net Tue Dec 30 02:42:03 2008 From: sam.kuper at uclmail.net (Sam Kuper) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:42:03 +0000 Subject: Pulster offer - Freerunner 299 eur (Sam Kuper) In-Reply-To: <636782.62430.qm@web26307.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <636782.62430.qm@web26307.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4126b3450812291742w432ea585lb5cabdbb1ea124b6@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/29 Anthony Clearn : >[Sam Kuper wrote: ] >>If so, please could you post to the list (or to me directly, if you >>prefer, in which case I won't announce your name)? If we can get ten >>buyers, we could all save a bit of money... > > Hi, > have you checked here? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Group_sales#England Hi Anthony, Nope, I hadn't. I wasn't previously aware of that page, so thanks for pointing it out :) Dear all, Obviously, with a wiki page available for the purpose of co-ordinating group-buy efforts, emailing me to show your interest would be less useful than it would otherwise have been, so please don't bother now. Sorry for the noise. Sam From wawrzek at gmail.com Tue Dec 30 14:20:45 2008 From: wawrzek at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Wawrzyniec_Niewodnicza=F1ski?=) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:20:45 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge Message-ID: Hi, The years is coming to end so it means that other is starting. So it's good thing to starting something new. I would like to propose another CamLUG project. I started the Google map with Cambridge companies using Linux (and/or general FOSS) and I would like you to join. http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=116257976395264086847.0004593ed5b1f40f48fd4 Why do I think it good for CamLUG or more general for Linux/FOSS? It exposes: - our group. - FOSS related opportunities. - Cambridge as a good place to work and live for FOSS related people. - companies using (or creating) right tools it means giving us or FOSS developers bread, and without bread there are no code. - that Linux/FOSS is no more for a strange boys not playing football. - that Linux is important part of "economy based on knowledge" and its something worth to learn. - scale of Linux adoption. - ? Please free to add new entries, share you ideas etc... I know that James Tobin from Camalyn tried to add some entries but he failed. We haven't time to proper debug the issue so I will be glad if you confirm that I properly set the map. Wawrzek -- Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski vel Wawrzek Larry or LarryN Linux User #177124 E-MAIL: wawrzek at gmail.com PhD in Quantum Chemistry WWW: http://wawrzek.name MSc in Molecular Engineering JID: larryn at chrome.pl From will.pink at gmail.com Tue Dec 30 16:25:33 2008 From: will.pink at gmail.com (william pink) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:25:33 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I see no pointers on the map? I presume there is supposed to be. I searched long and hard for a FOSS/Linux sysadmin role and unfortunately couldn't find anything that could match what London had to offer (Which is to be expected I suppose). The pointer I would like to add is Marshall Aerospace which used (I imagine still does) Redhat ES4 in a LFS cluster. Regards, Will 2008/12/30 Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski > Hi, > > The years is coming to end so it means that other is starting. So it's > good thing to starting something new. > I would like to propose another CamLUG project. I started the Google > map with Cambridge companies using Linux (and/or general FOSS) and I > would like you to join. > > > http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=116257976395264086847.0004593ed5b1f40f48fd4 > > Why do I think it good for CamLUG or more general for Linux/FOSS? > > It exposes: > - our group. > - FOSS related opportunities. > - Cambridge as a good place to work and live for FOSS related people. > - companies using (or creating) right tools it means giving us or FOSS > developers bread, and without bread there are no code. > - that Linux/FOSS is no more for a strange boys not playing football. > - that Linux is important part of "economy based on knowledge" and its > something worth to learn. > - scale of Linux adoption. > - ? > > Please free to add new entries, share you ideas etc... > I know that James Tobin from Camalyn tried to add some entries but he > failed. We haven't time to proper debug the issue so I will be glad if > you confirm that I properly set the map. > > Wawrzek > -- > Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski vel Wawrzek Larry or LarryN > Linux User #177124 E-MAIL: wawrzek at gmail.com > PhD in Quantum Chemistry WWW: http://wawrzek.name > MSc in Molecular Engineering JID: larryn at chrome.pl > > _______________________________________________ > CLUG mailing list > clug at cambridge-lug.org > Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081230/f3bcf8ac/attachment-0003.htm From onepoint at starurchin.org Tue Dec 30 16:53:30 2008 From: onepoint at starurchin.org (Jeremy Henty) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:53:30 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081230155330.GB2935@omphalos.singularity> > 2008/12/30 Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski > > > I started the Google map with Cambridge companies using Linux > > (and/or general FOSS) .. Very neat! On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: > Hi, > > I see no pointers on the map? Works fine for me in Firefox, though it takes a few seconds for the pointer data to download. Maybe it was just taking a long time for your browser to get the data? Regards, Jeremy Henty From will.pink at gmail.com Tue Dec 30 17:04:26 2008 From: will.pink at gmail.com (william pink) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:04:26 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <20081230155330.GB2935@omphalos.singularity> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> <20081230155330.GB2935@omphalos.singularity> Message-ID: <7891dd830812300804x38f7c01eg598da2d93364e101@mail.gmail.com> That's bizarre it now works for me! Will On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Jeremy Henty wrote: > > > 2008/12/30 Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski > > > > > I started the Google map with Cambridge companies using Linux > > > (and/or general FOSS) .. > > Very neat! > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I see no pointers on the map? > > Works fine for me in Firefox, though it takes a few seconds for the > pointer data to download. Maybe it was just taking a long time for > your browser to get the data? > > Regards, > > Jeremy Henty > _______________________________________________ > CLUG mailing list > clug at cambridge-lug.org > Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081230/ee8d543f/attachment-0003.htm From onepoint at starurchin.org Tue Dec 30 17:49:02 2008 From: onepoint at starurchin.org (Jeremy Henty) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:49:02 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <7891dd830812300804x38f7c01eg598da2d93364e101@mail.gmail.com> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> <20081230155330.GB2935@omphalos.singularity> <7891dd830812300804x38f7c01eg598da2d93364e101@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081230164902.GC2935@omphalos.singularity> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 04:04:26PM +0000, william pink wrote: > That's bizarre it now works for me! Sounds like your InterTube choked just as you were downloading the pointer data the first time. There's a noticeable delay so's it's not that unlikely. Jeremy Henty -- In [high energy] quantum physics, to observe something, you have to create it. Now this sounds scarily close to bullshit. But if it is bullshit, then at least it's bullshit with equations. -- Frank Wilczek From sam.kuper at uclmail.net Tue Dec 30 18:41:48 2008 From: sam.kuper at uclmail.net (Sam Kuper) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:41:48 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4126b3450812300941v3cb4efadqf7abe47af3cb0fc@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/30 Wawrzyniec Niewodnicza?ski > I know that James Tobin from Camalyn tried to add some entries but he > failed. We haven't time to proper debug the issue so I will be glad if > you confirm that I properly set the map. It didn't load properly the first time: everything worked except the "pins" on the map, which weren't visible. Refreshing the browser (Chrome on Vista, sorry!) made it work. From onepoint at starurchin.org Tue Dec 30 21:17:38 2008 From: onepoint at starurchin.org (Jeremy Henty) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:17:38 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081230201738.GD2935@omphalos.singularity> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: > > I searched long and hard for a FOSS/Linux sysadmin role and > unfortunately couldn't find anything that could match what London > had to offer... That's surprising. Isn't Cambridge all about cutting-edge technology? What does London have to offer? Regards, Jeremy Henty From tuxbox.guru at gmail.com Wed Dec 31 08:42:49 2008 From: tuxbox.guru at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:42:49 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <20081230201738.GD2935@omphalos.singularity> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> <20081230201738.GD2935@omphalos.singularity> Message-ID: <495B2279.3050207@gmail.com> Jeremy Henty wrote: > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: > >> I searched long and hard for a FOSS/Linux sysadmin role and >> unfortunately couldn't find anything that could match what London >> had to offer... >> > > That's surprising. Isn't Cambridge all about cutting-edge technology? > What does London have to offer? > > Regards, > > Jeremy Henty > _______________________________________________ > CLUG mailing list > clug at cambridge-lug.org > Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org > > Unfortunately I know of a few companies that use Linux/FOSS in their products that have jumped on the 'Redundancy' bandwagon and their VC funds have -apparently- dried up. As it stands, Linux jobs in Cambs are quite competitive, and some employers are using this to drive down salaries. I would definitely appreciate a list of Linux companies in the Cambs area just to avoid employment agents :D, but I am reluctant to add to it as the R+D scene is a bit wobbly. Just my 1p Richard From will.pink at gmail.com Wed Dec 31 13:15:54 2008 From: will.pink at gmail.com (william pink) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:15:54 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <20081230201738.GD2935@omphalos.singularity> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> <20081230201738.GD2935@omphalos.singularity> Message-ID: <7891dd830812310415k56559c4cq4f19e8b90106ba2@mail.gmail.com> Well for a start there is more opportunity's in London and the salaries just don't compare, I wouldn't for swap for a job in Cambridge now though as I am happily living in London and have a role I really enjoy. One thing I did notice is the Cambridge based roles wanted the earth in terms of experience and skills whereas as my London was more accommodating to training etc Regards, Will On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Jeremy Henty wrote: > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: > > > > I searched long and hard for a FOSS/Linux sysadmin role and > > unfortunately couldn't find anything that could match what London > > had to offer... > > That's surprising. Isn't Cambridge all about cutting-edge technology? > What does London have to offer? > > Regards, > > Jeremy Henty > _______________________________________________ > CLUG mailing list > clug at cambridge-lug.org > Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081231/11890f9c/attachment-0002.htm From will.pink at gmail.com Wed Dec 31 13:17:06 2008 From: will.pink at gmail.com (william pink) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:17:06 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <7891dd830812310415k56559c4cq4f19e8b90106ba2@mail.gmail.com> References: <7891dd830812300725r7abd766due2467cbad6b6f74b@mail.gmail.com> <20081230201738.GD2935@omphalos.singularity> <7891dd830812310415k56559c4cq4f19e8b90106ba2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7891dd830812310417y414e0f4i618103a300daf22b@mail.gmail.com> Apologies for the awful grammar and punctuation I should of proof read it. On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 12:15 PM, william pink wrote: > Well for a start there is more opportunity's in London and the salaries > just don't compare, I wouldn't for swap for a job in Cambridge now though as > I am happily living in London and have a role I really enjoy. One thing I > did notice is the Cambridge based roles wanted the earth in terms of > experience and skills whereas as my London was more accommodating to > training etc > > Regards, > Will > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Jeremy Henty wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: >> > >> > I searched long and hard for a FOSS/Linux sysadmin role and >> > unfortunately couldn't find anything that could match what London >> > had to offer... >> >> That's surprising. Isn't Cambridge all about cutting-edge technology? >> What does London have to offer? >> >> Regards, >> >> Jeremy Henty >> _______________________________________________ >> CLUG mailing list >> clug at cambridge-lug.org >> Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/attachments/20081231/2d43b090/attachment-0003.htm From clug at dziewulski.com Wed Dec 31 14:59:46 2008 From: clug at dziewulski.com (Jan M. Dziewulski) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:59:46 +0000 Subject: Linux/FOSS/UNIX jobs in Cambridge In-Reply-To: <7891dd830812310415k56559c4cq4f19e8b90106ba2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: They are probably aiming it more at ppl who have just graduated from our local Uni. A lot of them already have a lot of experience, admittedly not paid for but could obtain that fairly easily. Just my 2p... -- Janek On 31/12/2008 12:15, St. John's flock of rabid geese heard william pink say: > Well for a start there is more opportunity's in London and the salaries just > don't compare, I wouldn't for swap for a job in Cambridge now though as I am > happily living in London and have a role I really enjoy. One thing I did > notice is the Cambridge based roles wanted the earth in terms of experience > and skills whereas as my London was more accommodating to training etc > > Regards, > Will > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Jeremy Henty wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 03:25:33PM +0000, william pink wrote: >>> >>> I searched long and hard for a FOSS/Linux sysadmin role and >>> unfortunately couldn't find anything that could match what London >>> had to offer... >> >> That's surprising. Isn't Cambridge all about cutting-edge technology? >> What does London have to offer? >> >> Regards, >> >> Jeremy Henty >> _______________________________________________ >> CLUG mailing list >> clug at cambridge-lug.org >> Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > CLUG mailing list > clug at cambridge-lug.org > Website: http://www.cambridge-lug.org